# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 260
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5186 "2023-06-18T18:21:26Z")
With him it really could be either. He’s shown himself to be 100% disingenuous so it could be deliberate. On the other hand he is so lazy, and full of Musk hero worship, that he might have hit NBA and then his brain shut off. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5187 "2023-06-18T18:28:59Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Who knew Disney was selling boner bills, Microsoft sells the genuine pocket pussy and the NBA is a multi-level-marketing scheme. Because every company that puts ads on twitter also sells every product you see advertised on twitter? C’mon man, at least pretend to try. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2023, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5188 "2023-06-18T18:41:54Z")
Sam isn’t trying very hard. As long as people respond to his increasingly pathetic efforts at trolling, his ROI is enough to keep him in “business”. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5189 "2023-06-19T04:58:57Z")
The knife-launcher for kids that was being sold by “Zemmoshop” last week is now being sold by “ToyistzoneCo”, which I’m sure is an equally legitimate firm on par with Paramount and WBD and McDonald’s. [https://twitter.com/ToyistzoneCo/status/1670635398442389505](https://twitter.com/ToyistzoneCo/status/1670635398442389505) Agile ad revenue! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5190 "2023-06-19T14:34:42Z")
[So many fine advertisers on Twitter…](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition/963442/4147) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5191 "2023-06-19T14:39:29Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > healthcare, consumer devices and investment services. Then how come you didn’t cite Disney, Microsoft, NBA, and rather said that ad revenue was up for the generic " healthcare, consumer devices and investment services." Is ad revenue up 40% for Disney, Microsoft, NBA? Hmmmmmm? Heft those goalposts another 10 yards, mkay? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5192 "2023-06-19T14:44:49Z")
> **[Twitter’s U.S. Ad Sales Plunge 59% as Woes Continue](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/technology/twitter-ad-sales-musk.html)** > > In internal forecasts, the company projected that ad sales would keep declining, handing a tough challenge to its new chief executive. Important note: Sam’s “up 40 percent in certain vague categories” cite is from a talk to shareholders. The nytimes story is citing an internal report that they obtained. Of course my link is from, like, two whole weeks ago. So they could be way up since then. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5193 "2023-06-19T15:21:48Z")
They are probably both accurate. Sales are probably up in those categories on the back of garbage companies, while overall ad revenue is down. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5194 "2023-06-19T15:25:35Z")
Right, exactly. If it had been up because of Disney et al, they would’ve been crowing about that. Instead the shareholders got a “lies, damned lies, and statistics” speech. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5195 "2023-06-19T17:00:26Z")
If you look at the post I linked to above, there are a lot of obviously fake companies purportedly selling “household items” which I suspect is driving the numbers in that category. I still see a lot of promoted material for major companies (usually various media including Disney) but there is also a lot of low-grade crap being pushed in my feed. I block as fast as I can. ---
**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5196 "2023-06-19T17:21:08Z")
Here is a link to a long Mastodon thread about the Boulder Twitter office eviction. Read the thread for the pictures and more absurdist dotcom reminiscent details. Twitter had two floors of a building on Walnut street in Boulder. They outgrew that space, so started construction of a new, larger space. This was 2019, and by that time many Boulder Twitter employees worked from home, because of space issues. So many worked from home, that it is questionable a larger space was even necessary. Then the pandemic, everybody went home, and Dorsey said Twitter would be a work from home company. However, nobody stopped construction of the new space. Due to work from home and employee resignations due to the Musk takeover uncertainty, by the time of the grand opening, the most Twitter could manage was 15 employees for the grand opening of 65,000 square feet of office space. The space was never really occupied, ancillary services, such as the in-house chef, were never filled, and it basically sat empty for a year. Twitter never paid the bills on it for that year. One year to the day of the grand opening a judge granted the eviction notice. This was a big clusterfuck from the beginning, before Musk even took over. > **[Rod Hilton (@rodhilton@mastodon.social)](https://mastodon.social/@rodhilton/110561579833908574)** > > I want to expand more on the comedy of errors that led to the eviction of #Twitter from their Boulder, Colorado office. > > The story that leads up to this building even existing is bizarre and hilarious, so here goes... > > A thread... ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5197 "2023-06-19T17:46:48Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Of course my link is from, like, two whole weeks ago. So they could be way up since then. The market for boner pills is growing. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5198 "2023-06-19T18:40:53Z")
> [@echoreply](#): > > This was a big clusterfuck from the beginning, before Musk even took over. So let’s be fair, this **one** thing isn’t on Musk. ---
**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5199 "2023-06-19T18:48:50Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > let’s be fair, this **one** thing isn’t on Musk From what I could tell, building an unnecessary office space pre-dates Musk. Not bothering to pay the rent happened under Musk’s watch. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5200 "2023-06-19T18:53:56Z")
And it sounds like building the unnecessary office space was sabotaged by covid. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5201 "2023-06-19T19:03:56Z")
-points to @echoreply, @Atamasama and @carrps posts- There are those who say the Pit only serves for rants, hivemind buzz, and pile-ons. And it does, but I wanted to remind all who say such things that the posters and posts immediately above show that, _gasp_ we can and do actually consider the facts involved as well. Okay, we may now _also_ resume the (well earned) rants and pile-ons. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5202 "2023-06-19T19:17:56Z")
Argle bargle grrrr arghhhhh! Blah! Ack! Oop! Thppt! Wow. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5203 "2023-06-19T19:26:16Z")
Wow, it’s certainly nice to be singled out _in the Pit_, and it’s for something positive! Thanks, @ParallelLines ! ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5204 "2023-06-19T19:39:03Z")
This is positively revolting! ---
**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5205 "2023-06-19T21:22:37Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > Wow, it’s certainly nice to be singled out _in the Pit_ I thought the pointing was like a shame finger, or how one points and laughs. > [@ParallelLines](#): > > -points to @echoreply, @Atamasama and @carrps posts- My intention on posting that stuff is, in no particular order: local curiosity, laughing, an emotion less strong than schadenfreude but more than just shaking my head. Mostly I think any thread involving Musk should just start in the pit, and if it happens to attract useful information and discussion, that is just an unfortunate accident. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=259) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=261)