# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 264
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5266 "2023-06-20T23:43:49Z")
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5267 "2023-06-20T23:51:45Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > And ‘trust me - I’m a scientist’ died on the right the day they started calling for censorship for people who said things like the virus was airborne or that the virus originated in a Wuhan lab, and a lot of health professionals declared that the George Floyd riots were A-ok because racism was a bigger public health threat than Covid. They blew their trust, so now they are being challenged on everything. That’s how things work. It’s cute that you think the right just started denying science in 2020, as opposed to 100+ years ago. > **[Young Earth creationism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_creationism)** > > Young Earth creationism (YEC) is a form of creationism which holds as a central tenet that the Earth and its lifeforms were created by supernatural acts of the Abrahamic God between about 6,000 and 10,000 years ago. In its most widespread version, YEC is based on the religious belief in the inerrancy of certain literal interpretations of the Book of Genesis. Its primary adherents are Christians and Jews who believe that God created the Earth in six literal days. This is in contr Since the mid-2... ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5268 "2023-06-21T02:14:33Z")
…I’m still on Twitter, the groups and people I hang out with are good people, and by and large we are doing a good job at keeping the worst of the trolls at bay. But Twitter itself is now a toxic dump-fire. Whatever utility it used to have is gone. G#mergate was bad. This is g#mergate at entirely new level. They are all grown up. And there is something wrong with their brains. Swarms. Gish gallop. Disinformation. Open antisemitism. Open death threats. Open racism. Open genocidal transphobia. None of it getting moderated. Its just _appalling_. And the algorithm pushes this stuff. The blue-ticks now dominate people’s threads. And as for the former blue-ticks? I have no way of knowing if I’m reading a real news organization or a real celebrity and the only people I can trust on their now are the people in my immediate circle. I’d jump to another platform but there _is_ no other platform. Not with the same community. Will stay on the ship I suppose until it sinks. But the _state_ of it all. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5269 "2023-06-21T02:18:33Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > And the algorithm pushes this stuff. The blue-ticks now dominate people’s threads. And as for the former blue-ticks? I have no way of knowing if I’m reading a real news organization or a real celebrity and the only people I can trust on their now are the people in my immediate circle. I continue to recommend the addon “eight-dollars”. > **[GitHub - wseagar/eight-dollars: A browser extension that shows twitter blue...](https://github.com/wseagar/eight-dollars)** > > A browser extension that shows twitter blue vs real verified users - GitHub - wseagar/eight-dollars: A browser extension that shows twitter blue vs real verified users ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5270 "2023-06-21T05:15:38Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I continue to recommend the addon “eight-dollars”. > > [GitHub - wseagar/eight-dollars: A browser extension that shows twitter blue vs real verified users](https://github.com/wseagar/eight-dollars) …cheers. Probably won’t use it though. My feed is pretty well curated. I only see the trash if I go looking for it. And I’m pretty debate-proof: the trolls know better than to pick a fight with me after a few rounds. Latest update: the Musk has now declared that “The words “cis” or “cisgender” are considered slurs on this platform.” What a horrible, foul, awful stench of a person. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5271 "2023-06-21T05:47:10Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Latest update: the Musk has now declared that “The words “cis” or “cisgender” are considered slurs on this platform.” What a horrible, foul, awful stench of a person. Not to worry, Elmo is a free speech absolutist, so you’ll still be able to use the words even if he thinks they’re slurs, right? Right? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5272 "2023-06-21T05:48:20Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Latest update: the Musk has now declared that “The words “cis” or “cisgender” are considered slurs on this platform.” What a horrible, foul, awful stench of a person. So, Ms. Yaccarino, how’s that new CEO gig working out for ya? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5273 "2023-06-21T06:19:41Z")
Well, now that Elmo has officially stepped down as CEO, Yaccarino calls the shots, right? Elmo is now nothing more than a sociopathic bully who owns the place! 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5274 "2023-06-21T08:10:03Z")
“Don’t worry, I gave you all the responsibility, I only kept the power.” ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5275 "2023-06-21T10:25:19Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > So, protests against racism or police violence are A-OK. Other protests, however, such as protests against lockdowns, are just white supremacy and should be shut down, Yes, protesting against actions that kill or seriously hurt people is good in both cases, your inadvertently accurate conflation of white supremacy and dangerous ignorance notwithstanding. > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > You know the other side’s got 'nuthin when they resort to snarking over word choices. Call it a protest and not a riot, I don’t care. In other words, you got caught in an obvious lie and are now lying to try to avoid taking responsibility for your own words. Must be a day ending in Y. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5276 "2023-06-21T13:14:52Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Latest update: the Musk has now declared that “The words “cis” or “cisgender” are considered slurs on this platform.” What a horrible, foul, awful stench of a person. …what is likely to happen here is that Twitter is so understaffed, and there really isn’t anyone in charge of moderation any more (I’ve reported multiple accounts for antisemitism, racism, transphobia and even death threats the last few weeks and none of them got actioned) that they will simply put a filter in place (like they did with the word “blender” in Twitter search) to auto-censor the word. Which is likely to capture plenty of other words in the process. Hilarity ensues. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5277 "2023-06-21T13:20:27Z")
Gonna make it hard to talk about SpaceX’s attempts at missions to the moon, what with cis-lunar space and all. > **[FACT SHEET: First National Cislunar Science & Technology Strategy | OSTP...](https://www.whitehouse.gov/ostp/news-updates/2022/11/17/fact-sheet-first-national-cislunar-science-technology-strategy/)** > > Today, the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy released the first National Cislunar Science and Technology (S&T) Strategy to address how U.S. S&T leadership will support responsible, peaceful, and sustainable exploration and... ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5278 "2023-06-21T13:39:32Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > You know the other side’s got 'nuthin when they resort to snarking over word choices. Call it a protest and not a riot, I don’t care. Nitpick the people on the list, but there are still a lot of heavy hitters with MDs and Ph.D’s who signed it. I prefer snarking over entries on that list of “public health professionals”. There are a lot of students, names without any designation of affiliation or education, anonymous supporters and my favorite, “Black female that’s tired, USAF vet” Undoubtedly there are some who qualify as “public health professionals”. The question is, how many of them are influential leaders in their specialties, and are they outnumbered by genuine leaders in the field(s) of public health? In general, open letters like these are highly suspect when it comes to indicating meaningful support for a position. The most notorious recent one was the Great Barrington Declaration, in which “medical professionals” urged against lockdowns and disregarded other preventative measures during the early days of the pandemic, claiming that “focused protection” while letting the virus sweep through the population would produce long-term sterilizing herd immunity within three months - an idea that hasn’t worked out so well. 🤪 Whenever people wave open letters in your face, in addition to examining what they propose, take a good hard look at who signed them and ask yourself 1) what percentage of the group they purport to represent supports them, and 2) what do the top experts in the field say? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5279 "2023-06-21T16:37:10Z")
I seem to recall some such open letters where prominent professionals listed among the signatories turned out not to have actually signed it at all, and were dismayed to find themselves so listed. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5280 "2023-06-21T19:24:42Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > I prefer snarking over entries on that list of “public health professionals”. There are a lot of students, names without any designation of affiliation or education, anonymous supporters and my favorite, “Black female that’s tired, USAF vet” It’s the same exact tactic that the Republicans tried to pull when they claimed that the Biden administration had hired thousands and thousands of IRS agents to come steal the middle class’s money. In reality, they are mostly being hired to administrative positions, many to fill vacancies. And the hiring was supposed to be done slowly over the course of a decade, until it was sabotaged, because Republicans don’t want to make things smoother and more efficient. They only care about protecting their rich puppetmasters. > **[Why the Republican claim about 87,000 new IRS agents is an exaggeration | CNN...](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/01/11/politics/republican-irs-funding-87000-agents/index.html)** > > In its first vote on legislation, the new Republican-controlled House approved a bill Monday that would rescind nearly $80 billion for the Internal Revenue Service – with key GOP lawmakers making the exaggerated claim that the money would be used to... People like Sam love to pull this shit. It’s not just being imprecise, it’s a complete lie. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5281 "2023-06-22T11:12:53Z")
> **[Twitter issued with 'please explain' notice after surge in online hate post...](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-22/cph-e-safety-commissioner-compels-twitter-to-produce-documents/102505546)** > > Billionaire Elon Musk's social media platform Twitter has been issued with a demand from Australian authorities for information on what it is doing to tackle online hate. Countdown to Musk ordering a blanket geo-block on Australia in five, four, three… ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5282 "2023-06-22T11:44:04Z")
BILLIONAIRE FIGHT! > **[Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg say they're ready for a cage fight | CNN Business](https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/22/tech/musk-zuckerberg-cage-fight/index.html)** > > Business rivalry seemingly isn’t enough for two of the tech industry’s most powerful billionaires. Now Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg say they want to settle their scores in a cage fight. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5283 "2023-06-22T13:30:42Z")
I imagine… ![](https://media.tenor.com/DEITqk3Ffw8AAAAM/fight-couple.gif) ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5284 "2023-06-22T13:38:06Z")
I’m rooting for the cage. “Two billionaires enter, one belch leaves.” ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5285 "2023-06-22T14:00:03Z")
Forget the cage, maybe a submersible? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=263) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=265)