# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 294
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5866 "2023-07-27T07:34:26Z")
…and now the bird logo is back on the site (on desktop, at least - the mobile site is still showing me the X he doesn’t own), so I assume Elmo finally came down from his 72-hour ketamine high and realized he was gonna get sued for trademark infringement. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5867 "2023-07-27T08:02:25Z")
Obviously not true. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5868 "2023-07-27T09:04:26Z")
> [@The\_Librarian](#): > > There are only nazis and child molesters posting on Twitter. Which one of those is this? [https://twitter.com/RepAOC/status/1683922140699975681](https://twitter.com/RepAOC/status/1683922140699975681) ---
**Author:** ![nate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nate/32/13085_2.png) [@nate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nate)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5869 "2023-07-27T09:09:02Z")
Part of Musk’s revolving greatest hits is that engineers are dumb and will solve the wrong problem and optimize its solution. I can’t help but think every change he has made at twitter has been solving a non-existent problem. The guy is a relatively smart man, but once you observe how someone in that lifestyle is insulated from just about every petty annoyance in life you can predict that it’s just a matter of time before he’s so disconnected from reality that a shitshow like this likely to happen. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5870 "2023-07-27T09:09:29Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > …and now the bird logo is back on the site Never mind on that. Apparently one of my browser extensions now auto-replaces the X logo with the bird logo. Carry on, folks. > [@nate](#): > > The guy is a relatively smart man Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5871 "2023-07-27T10:10:41Z")
> [@nate](#): > > it’s just a matter of time before he’s so disconnected from reality that a shitshow like this likely to happen The history described in the Mastodon thread I posted above reflects a combination of arrogance and stupidity that got Musk forcibly removed from Paypal back in 1999. And now Musk is attempting to resurrect almost precisely the very same ideas that failed so hard before, and he is spectacularly failing again. In other words, this is not a single isolated shitshow that might have been eventually expected to happen to anyone — it’s pretty conclusive evidence that, at least in this general area, Musk has been consistently idiotic for almost 25 years, and he’s simply lacked opportunities to demonstrate what a dummy he is. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5872 "2023-07-27T10:33:40Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > The history described in the Mastodon thread I posted above reflects a combination of arrogance and stupidity that got Musk forcibly removed from Paypal back in 1999. And now Musk is attempting to resurrect almost precisely the very same ideas that failed so hard before, and he is spectacularly failing again. To quote a xeet that I can’t find just now; “Billionaires shouldn’t exist because when one of them has a midlife crisis it becomes EVERYONE’S problem.” ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5873 "2023-07-27T11:53:38Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Which one of those is this? Being a Democrat, clearly a child molesting groomer! As evidenced by her being on Twitter, a website notorious for allowing posters of kiddy porn to use the site. Channeling my inner QAnon, conservative, Republican. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5874 "2023-07-27T12:41:58Z")
Elmo steals a longtime user’s handle, offers him Twitter merch in exchange: > **[Elon Musk's X takes @X handle from longtime Twitter user](https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/elon-musks-takes-x-handle-longtime-twitter-user-rcna96074?cid=eml_mrd_20230727)** > > The sudden takeover of the handle highlights the branding and intellectual property rights issues that Musk’s company now has to deal with. ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5875 "2023-07-27T14:48:07Z")
Or is that X merch? Whatever the fuck that is. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5876 "2023-07-27T15:16:47Z")
What sort of problem is he solving by allowing someone with a history of posting child porn, rape for cry eye, back on the platform? This isn’t hard post content of child rape get banned, arrested, tried, and imprisoned. He (musk) allows wild conspiracy theories about “trafficking” and “grooming” on the platform, indeed pushes that shit himself, and he gets genuine child porn posted and shrugs it off. It really is sick. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5877 "2023-07-27T20:25:23Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > So, apparently the new logo bothers you more than the fact that Elon has reinstated “a QAnon booster named Dom Lucre…And the material he posted apparently had to do with a guy who filmed himself raping children and sold the video on the deep web as pay-per-views.” That’s not what I said. I said X was a reminder, not that it was objectionable per se. I’m not on Facebook, because they are bad actors who continually have privacy scandals where they promise to do better, then don’t. I am on Threads (owned by the same company) because I support their efforts to build an alternative to twitter. Also on Mastodon, Post, and Spoutible. (Next on list: Blusky) It’s sort of like the way I’m not a vegetarian, but I try to purchase meat from platforms that respond to animal welfare pressures, eg [Niman Ranch](https://www.nimanranch.com/). I’m not keen on sharing a platform with actual child abusers and fascists, but sharing a platform isn’t the same as endorsement. > [@](#): > > Now, if the above is incorrect, and there is good reason to believe it is false, okay - I don’t support jumping on hysterical bandwagons. But honestly, if I were still on “X” and I thought there was a decent chance that the above was true, I’d leave in an instant. YMMV. My ethics are grounded on reformism, not purity tests. YMMV. Here are some people I follow on twitter. Kamil Galeev, Paul Krugman, Brian Schatz, Josh Marshall, Noah Smith, TipsWatch, [this list on the Ukraine War](https://twitter.com/i/lists/1494877848087187461), and a list I’ve put together that I visit when the Fed makes an announcement. When these folks move to another platform, I’ll mostly likely will already be there. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5878 "2023-07-27T20:45:30Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > I’m not keen on sharing a platform with actual child abusers and fascists, but sharing a platform isn’t the same as endorsement. Ok, what the fuck is so important in your life that you are mingling with fascists and actual child abusers to get it? Is your dealer still on Twitter? GTFO. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5879 "2023-07-27T21:00:43Z")
> [@The\_Librarian](#): > > Ok, what the fuck is so important in your life that you are mingling with fascists and actual child abusers to get it? Is your dealer still on Twitter? > GTFO. LOL: Nice troll. I don’t encounter any of them, and I explicitly listed non-fascists that I do encounter. Do you use google Librarian? I’ve heard actual child abusers do the same. Why do you do that Librarian? Is your dealer on Google? Stop supporting death squads. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5880 "2023-07-27T21:05:32Z")
Nope, I quit using Google (as far as feasible for me\*) -4 years ago. I do not knowingly do business with organizations I consider evil. \*my Garmin still used Google maps. Other service I use might be using services from Google I do not know about. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5881 "2023-07-27T21:22:41Z")
More on pedo guy Elmo; the photos Lucre posted were from a video depicting the torture and sexual abuse of a one-year-old and were live for four days before Elmo did anything about it. > **[Elon Musk Welcomes Child Sex Abuse Imagery Poster Back to Twitter](https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgwa7z/twitter-elon-musk-dom-lucre-child-sexual-abuse)** > > Twitter says it has “a zero-tolerance child sexual exploitation policy.” Musk apparently doesn’t. Lucre has celebrated his being unbanned by accusing Elmo of covering up Obama birther theories, and then posted an AI-generated nude photo of AOC. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.E](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.e/32/8932_2.png) [@Mr.E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.E)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5882 "2023-07-27T21:38:28Z")
> **[Elon Musk Today](https://elonmusk.today/)** > > Elon Musk Today: The future ain't what it used to be! | artwork by trish@omerta22PL 2019 This is a handy website providing an exhaustive list of promises and broken promises from Musk over the last decade or so. Right on top of the list is “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with widely diverse viewpoints. No major content decisions or account reinstatements will happen before that council convenes.” Gee, I wonder if that council, which never materialized, would have approved of reinstating someone who posted CSAM to “raise awareness” ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5883 "2023-07-27T21:42:59Z")
> [@The\_Librarian](#): > > Nope, I quit using Google (as > far as feasible for me\*) -4 years ago. I do not knowingly do business with organizations I consider evil. Whatever replacement search engine you use is still also used by child abusers. The point is, the standard you are posing is absurd. And the way you are proposing it makes you come off like the asshole. You’re not merely encouraging people to leave, but attacking them for not doing so. You come off more like you want to crow about how much better you are than to encourage others to follow your footsteps. Like it or not, there’s a lot of inertia there. Not everyone who I might need or want to be in contact with has left the platform. And, frankly, I find it absurd to allow some billionaire or some bigoted assholes to make me have to leave something I get use out of. I do use Twitter less than I did before (which was already far less than most people). People in general are already using Twitter less than before. It is dying out. Attacking people who haven’t completely abandoned it yet doesn’t accomplish anything. It’s just a purity test, and purity tests tend only to create animosity between those who would otherwise be allies. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5884 "2023-07-27T21:47:16Z")
OK, this is trivial compared to child rape, it is just stealing from a blind person and when asked by the press what about it answering with a poop emoji, becuse that is what one answers to the press, but nonetheless, that shows on how many levels [Twitter](https://schumanchu.eu/html/r1/r1_00101.html) is evil: > **[Twitter Scammers Stole $1,000 From My Friend—So I Hunted Them Down](https://www.wired.com/story/twitter-laptop-scam-hunters/?utm_source=DamnInteresting)** > > After scammers duped a friend with a hacked Twitter account and a “deal” on a MacBook, I enlisted the help of a fellow threat researcher to trace the criminals’ offline identities. And getting worse because of a musk-rat. Not to boast about it, but I have been saying this forever. But I admit I did not imagine it could get so much worse. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5885 "2023-07-27T21:50:02Z")
When it was Twitter–they were Tweets. Now that it’s “X”–eXcrements? 🤣 🤣 🤣 😝 🤓 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=293) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=295)