# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5886 "2023-07-27T21:51:54Z")

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Market research, which I doubt Musk uses:

[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2CqsO2XgAAEbop?format=jpg&name=900x900) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2CqsO2XgAAEbop?format=jpg&name=900x900)

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5887 "2023-07-27T22:14:24Z")

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I think I know who the one “very positively” respondent was.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5888 "2023-07-27T22:15:12Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Whatever replacement search engine you use is still also used by child abusers. The point is, the standard you are posing is absurd. And the way you are proposing it makes you come off like the asshole. You’re not merely encouraging people to leave, but attacking them for not doing so. You come off more like you want to crow about how much better you are than to encourage others to follow your footsteps.

Well, that was … preachy.

Of course we can’t be perfect. I’m sure I engage every day with evil corporations. Hell, I drive an internal combustion car, which is pretty damn evil in my book. For me, what it comes down to is not so much, as @Measure_for_Measure would characterize it, “purity tests,” but a more nuanced set of metrics. Can I realistically withdraw from an entity/corporation that does bad things, as opposed to offering my endorsement, however unwitting?

To me, withdrawing from Twix is like participating in a boycott. There is little cost to me to show that I don’t support pretty much anything Elon does or says. I therefore choose not to engage. And I have no qualms about pressing people who still participate on exactly why they feel okay with it. Measure\_for\_Measure has explained his reasoning. I disagree, but I’m interested in his POV and glad he shared.

Also, I’d be really interested in AOC’s rationalization for continuing to engage with That Platform (I’m out of cute names, and X is stupid and Twitter is now wrong). If she’s explained it anywhere, I hope someone will post it here.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5889 "2023-07-27T22:30:31Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> There is little cost to me to show that I don’t support pretty much anything Elon does or says. I therefore choose not to engage.

But you just said above you never used the account in the first place, so that’s a bit like giving up Brussels sprouts for Lent when you hated Brussels sprouts in the first place, isn’t it? You’re not really making much of a statement, though I agree with you not using Twitter (I don’t either, but I never much used it myself, either, so I’m not exactly making a principled stand here myself.)

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5890 "2023-07-27T22:53:39Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> you just said above you never used the account in the first place

> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> There is little cost to me to show that I don’t support pretty much anything Elon does or says

How are these statements inconsistent?

TBH, I pretty much “prepaid” my protests of a lot of social media, by not engaging if possible, or engaging only because I had to. I had a Twitter account because I was running the communications division of a $50million aid project - on leaving that position I gratefully began ignoring Twitter. (Similar stories for FB and Instagram).

So I don’t have the option of making a huge sacrifice here, though I would if I could. And I do when I can.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5891 "2023-07-27T23:32:13Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> But you just said above you never used the account in the first place, so that’s a bit like giving up Brussels sprouts for Lent when you hated Brussels sprouts in the first place, isn’t it?

I’m kind of in the same boat.

I don’t really use Twitter, but I never used it either. I think I’ve made maybe a dozen tweets ever. Mostly just responding to the Twitter account of a video game company who is creating an MMORPG that I supported in Kickstarter.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5892 "2023-07-28T00:06:55Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> Well, that was … preachy.

…not as preachy as this nonsense.

> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> Anyone who continues to post on Twi–I mean, X–after this latest behavior gets no respect from me. I deleted my account (though to be fair I never used it) the day Elon bought Twitter and I haven’t regretted it for a moment.

> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> So, apparently the new logo bothers you more than the fact that Elon has reinstated “a QAnon booster named Dom Lucre…And the material he posted apparently had to do with a guy who filmed himself raping children and sold the video on the deep web as pay-per-views.”
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> Now, if the above is incorrect, and there is good reason to believe it is false, okay - I don’t support jumping on hysterical bandwagons. But honestly, if I were still on “X” and I thought there was a decent chance that the above was true, I’d leave in an instant. YMMV.

> [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> Ok, what the fuck is so important in your life that you are mingling with fascists and actual child abusers to get it? Is your dealer still on Twitter?  
> GTFO.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5893 "2023-07-28T00:10:13Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …not as preachy as this nonsense.

Okay. If you want to hold a preach-off, I’ll sign up as one of the contestants. Could be fun.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5894 "2023-07-28T01:29:51Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> I think I know who the one “very positively” respondent was.

“Xeeters never prosper.”

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5895 "2023-07-28T01:40:18Z")

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> [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> There are only nazis and child molesters posting on Twitter.

This is demonstrably not true. I follow a number of people on Twitter who are the polar opposite of that, also Larry the Cat (No. 10 Downing Street cat), Lake Superior, many more who still post worthwhile content untainted by Musk and his despicable buddies.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5896 "2023-07-28T01:45:11Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> Mastodon, Post, and Spoutible. (Next on list: Blusky)

I’ve joined up on all four of those, and while they have their good sides, none of them offer the same look and feel and ease of finding and following worthwhile members as Twitter does. It’s a damned shame the bird is being gnawed away by the rat within.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5897 "2023-07-28T01:46:05Z")

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I’ve known a few cats in my time, and they can definitely be child molesters.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5898 "2023-07-28T01:49:27Z")

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But [can they be Nazis](http://www.catsthatlooklikehitler.com/cgi-bin/seigbest.pl)?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5899 "2023-07-28T01:52:02Z")

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[![](https://i.redd.it/7okvxjbx85671.png) ](https://i.redd.it/7okvxjbx85671.png)

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5900 "2023-07-28T01:54:35Z")

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Yes you do

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5901 "2023-07-28T01:59:51Z")

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I have one cat that has a habit of scratching one “elbow”, and when he does it looks just like he is giving a Nazi salute.

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5902 "2023-07-28T02:11:57Z")

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> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#):
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> Now that it’s “X”–eXcrements?

I’ve heard X-cretions suggested.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5903 "2023-07-28T02:44:05Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> Well, that was … preachy.

I was replying to a preachy, self-righteous set of posts. I was calling someone out for a bit of trolling. So I was disinclined to pull my punches.

I don’t have any problem with the rest of your post. I just am confused, since you don’t seem to be disagreeing with me, nor do you seem to be agreeing with or defending the guy I called out.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5904 "2023-07-28T04:55:26Z")

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What we need in this thread is some freeze preach.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5905 "2023-07-28T11:04:30Z")

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Twitter has been completely banned on the law subreddit after that CSAM mess (child sexual abuse material-a new acronym I just learned), and the fact that Musk fired the person who scanned for it-not a job I’d ever want-which is interesting. I didn’t directly link to it because I assumed that was frowned upon?

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