# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 296
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5906 "2023-07-28T11:48:06Z")
Here we are. > [@](#): > > Since Musk took control of Twitter, he mostly eliminated the Trust and Safety group and stopped paying the vendor that scans for CSAM. As a result, CSAM (child sexual abuse material) has apparently been circulating on Twitter recently (from what I’ve read elsewhere, the same notorious video that the feds found on Josh Duggar’s hard drive). > > Musk also recently reinstated the account of someone who posted CSAM content. > > As a result, we’ll be removing any content here that leads to Twitter, or, as he now calls it, X. Whether it’s an embed link or a direct link to a tweet. Don’t care what outlet is doing it. If you’re a reporter or editor, stop embedding links to Twitter in any of your content. [https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/15bang9/twitter\_ban/](https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/15bang9/twitter_ban/) The video found on Duggar’s hard drive, as mentioned above, is indeed the Peter Scully video that Dom Lucre tweeted stills from. There is a Wikipedia article on Scully that goes into some detail about the nature of the video. I do not encourage you to read it if you have children, know people who have children, or have ever been a child. It is enough to know that the Philippines abolished capital punishment in 2006, but considered reinstating it _just for him_ when he was put on trial. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5907 "2023-07-28T12:09:27Z")
Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![B.Serum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/b.serum/32/14266_2.png) [@B.Serum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/B.Serum)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5908 "2023-07-28T13:46:51Z")
Give it time. No social media UI is fully baked from the jump. Good UI develops from user behavior trends and preferences (in addition to less altruistic directives from corporate). ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5909 "2023-07-28T17:03:30Z")
I surely cannot be the only person in the world who has been trained by the internet to recognise the X symbol as an invitation to close the content that I do not wish to see. I looked at an xcrete/xeet/tweet earlier today and instinctively clicked to logo to exit. I’m not sure if there has been a possibly worse re-brand on the internet. Not just confused branding, but incredibly poor user experience (I can only see a single tweet, some can see threads, some can only see a login page, all on the same tweet URL) Typically major changes to the user experience are rolled out via what is known as an A/B test, in which changes happen to, say, 10% of users and the dev team and marketers evaluate the difference in response compared to the other 90%. If it seems favorable, then 20%/80%… and slowly the ratio changes. This means it is easy to roll back the change if it is unpopular or hard to use. Musk may understand business (I have my doubts) but as a mere software engineer - not even a UX designer - even I can see he is shitting on his product. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5910 "2023-07-28T17:06:48Z")
Surprised he hasn’t tried to rebrand himself. Exon Xusk sounds right. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5911 "2023-07-28T17:08:39Z")
He’s not so far away from the Exxon Valdez, just the environment he is contaminating is virtual. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5912 "2023-07-28T20:57:05Z")
Steven King, as noted earlier, has not been a fan of Elmo’s hijinks. He remains unimpressed with Mr. Mux’s latest ~~brainfart~~ brainwave. > ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5913 "2023-07-28T21:17:24Z")
That gives me the idea of making a quick user script that changes the X logo to where clicking on it closes the current tab. That is, assuming no one else has done it. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5914 "2023-07-28T22:18:34Z")
If Stephen King is openly mocking you, you probably need to reevaluate your choices. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5915 "2023-07-28T23:44:33Z")
And I also abase myself in shame for misspelling Mr. King’s forename. Because with that chutzpah (along with his literary accomplishments), he deserves to have his minority-variant first name spelling respected. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5916 "2023-07-29T14:49:49Z")
[![](https://preview.redd.it/rqk7sansiweb1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=241c1225ad86f8e7efe5332c7863c1e17ce8e90c) ](https://preview.redd.it/rqk7sansiweb1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=241c1225ad86f8e7efe5332c7863c1e17ce8e90c) I’ve not confirmed this, so take with grain of salt, but if true, then one really has to marvel at how well thought out and planned this rebranding was done. Clearly the work of a jenius. Also, you can tell how bad it is because not even Sam has come around to tell us how wrong we are about his favorite billionaire. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5917 "2023-07-29T15:44:04Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > he deserves to have his minority-variant first name spelling Say what now? I think you’re mistaken as to which is the variant, there. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5918 "2023-07-29T16:00:44Z")
At least in the United States: > **[Change in Popularity](https://www.ssa.gov/oact/babynames/popularity_decrease.html)** > > Change in Name Popularity | Name | 2022 Popularity | | --- | --- | | Steven | 257th | | Stephen | 359th | (Both names lost ranking compared to 2021 but their relative popularity is still the same.) ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5919 "2023-07-29T16:08:52Z")
> [@Mr.E](#): > > Right on top of the list is “Twitter will be forming a content moderation council with widely diverse viewpoints. No major content decisions or account reinstatements will happen before that council convenes.” > > Gee, I wonder if that council, which never materialized, would have approved of reinstating someone who posted CSAM to “raise awareness” It’s worse than that. Twitter already had a Trust and Safety Council when Elmo bought it, and as far as anyone can tell, he didn’t know about it, which is why he promised to create one. When Elmo found out that a moderation group already existed, he fired them all: > **[Twitter Shuts Down Its Trust And Safety Council—Here’s What You Need To Know](https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladityaray/2022/12/13/twitter-shuts-down-its-trust-and-safety-council-heres-what-you-need-to-know/?sh=61e6e3bc1460)** > > Concerns about hateful content on Twitter are likely to grow as Musk himself has chosen to leverage the platform to target people who are critical of his actions. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5920 "2023-07-29T16:09:42Z")
Well, “Steven” derives from “Stephen” (and further from Greek Στέφανος (Stéphanos), so regardless of relative popularity, it’s Steven that is the variant, though relatively more popular than Stephen in the US, at least. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5921 "2023-07-29T16:12:06Z")
Sure. Stephen and Steven (and Steve, and Stephan) are all variants of Στέφανος. And currently, “Stephen” is a minority variant. 😄 Anyway, Mr. King says the things we want to say. (In my case, if I bothered to say “Twitter” at all.) ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5922 "2023-07-29T16:33:26Z")
Doesn’t mean the V one isn’t a variant of the other, not the other way around. > **[Google Books Ngram Viewer](https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Steven%2CStephen&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3)** > > Google Books Ngram Viewer ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5923 "2023-07-29T16:46:22Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > Also, you can tell how bad it is because not even Sam has come around to tell us how wrong we are about his favorite billionaire. Never underestimate Sammy’s faith in his boi wonder, I believe he is currently up on his cross holding his breath and not posting due to a temper tantrum he is throwing about how persecuted he is by all of us meanies. I’m sure if he wasn’t he could find time to link to a cite that didn’t actually read which says the opposite of what he imagined it said. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5924 "2023-07-29T19:12:51Z")
Elmo has erected a giant X made out of steel girders on top of Twitter HQ. > ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/5925 "2023-07-29T19:19:09Z")
If apps require two letters, I wonder why Musk did not simply rename Twitter XXX. After all, the _Dos Equis Man_ claims to be the Most Interesting Man In The World. And it might have garnered more attention. I’ve never Twitted. So I did not know until this week that the logo was named Larry after Larry Bird. Although I am too young to have seen him shoot hoops, I did watch him go one-on-one with Dr. J many times. He usually got smoked, in the limited subset where I was playing video games with my brother. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=295) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=297)