# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 303
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6046 "2023-08-03T07:51:08Z")
Tweeting is now called “posting”, and retweeting is now called “quoting”, because Elmo is a moronic failson who has no idea how marketing works and does not understand the value of a brand. To quote a tweet (I’m following Twitter’s guidelines on gender and refusing to acknowledge it by its preferred name) I saw; “It’s like changing McDonald’s to M. I’m going to M to get the 2-patty 3-bun meat sandwich with potato logs and a fluid cup.” ---
**Author:** ![epbrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@epbrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6047 "2023-08-03T09:04:03Z")
It may be working as publicity, but the core idea behind publicity is to drive business to you. If the future of X is to be involved in half the planet’s financial transactions (or “some big number” to quote Musk), he demonstrating himself to be a scoff-law while starting a business that’s essentially an international bank with access to everyone’s account information. As the hipsters like to say, “Nah, fam.” ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6048 "2023-08-03T16:16:27Z")
A friend linked to a (rather old) twitter thread on Facebook. I clicked through, read it, and then… tried to click on the big ugly “X” symbol to close. I know better, of course, and people have already mentioned this stupidity here, but I was surprised at how natural it was to make the mistake. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6049 "2023-08-03T17:34:41Z")
> **[Musk calls French news agency’s copyright case against X “bizarre”](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/08/musk-calls-french-news-agencys-copyright-case-against-x-bizarre/)** > > France has required online platforms to pay for news since 2019. Musk is blissfully oblivious to the fact that he is required to comply with a law. News at 11. Except you can’t link to the news. (You can argue whether the law is sensible or justifiable. But it _is_ the law.) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6050 "2023-08-03T18:04:29Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Musk is blissfully oblivious to the fact that he is required to comply with a law. And he whines about not having ad revenue: > “They want us to pay _them_ for traffic to their site where they make advertising revenue and we don’t!?” Shouldn’t have been driving your advertisers away, Elmo. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6051 "2023-08-03T18:51:49Z")
What great bands have names incorporating a separate letter X? Bush X and XTC are okay. But none of the coolest groups did this to my knowledge. OTOH, all sorts of good groups use the word Twitter or are named after basketball players.^ ^You haven’t heard of them? And I thought you were cool… The coolest letter is _sigma_. It’s cred adds up. Unless you have six of them. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6052 "2023-08-03T19:30:36Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > What great bands have names incorporating a separate letter X? Bush X and XTC are okay. But none of the coolest groups did this to my knowledge. Not to stomp all over your point, but I question your knowledge of cool. X (that’s their entire name) started in 1977 and was one of the pioneer punk bands. They are indisputably cooler than most bands, and infinitely more cool than Musk or TPFKAT. > **[X the band](https://www.xtheband.com/)** > > X the band ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6053 "2023-08-03T19:46:18Z")
There’s also, currently, this fairly popular Persian techno-dance act. > **[x+band](https://play.radiojavan.com/artist/x+band)** > > Listen to X Band on Radio Javan. Artist - 122,721 followers - 510M plays - دانلود آهنگ های اکس بند - دانلود آهنگ جدید اکس بند My Tehran-born wife listens to them on the regular. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6054 "2023-08-03T19:48:20Z")
Back when I was in high school, when dinosaurs roamed the land, I though INXS was cool… ---
**Author:** ![Mr.E](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.e/32/8932_2.png) [@Mr.E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.E)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6055 "2023-08-03T19:53:25Z")
I thought the point of those laws is the fact social media sites DON’T drive traffic to news sites but instead use news headlines and snippets to drive user engagement (and ads) on the social media site. It’s the same as the way search engines try to answer you query without making you click through to a search result. Much better for Google if you continue looking at Google’s ads rather than some other website’s ads. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6056 "2023-08-03T21:21:11Z")
There’s also also Add N to (X). > **[Add N to (X)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Add_N_to_(X))** > > Add N to (X) were an English electronic music band formed in London in 1994. The original members were Andrew Aveling, Barry Smith (aka Barry 7) and Ann Shenton. Steven Claydon replaced Aveling in 1997. > After several releases on small labels, they signed to the independent label Mute Records in 1998, and achieved modest commercial success before splitting in 2003. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6057 "2023-08-03T21:29:40Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > They are indisputably cooler than most bands, and infinitely more cool than Musk or TPFKAT. > > [https://www.xtheband.com/](https://www.xtheband.com/) See, now _that_ is how to have an X as a logo. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6058 "2023-08-03T21:42:10Z")
Meh. X may be cooler than Bush X or XTC, but are not in the same league as The Nerves, Sex Pistols, Ramones or even the Stranglers. I’m sure they had a lot of local support. Anyone thought to ask them what they think of Musk’s metamorphoses? ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6059 "2023-08-03T21:45:45Z")
I liked them quite a bit in the 80s, but after Exene Cervenka described a shooting a while back as a false flag operation, I’m not too interested in what she has to say. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6060 "2023-08-03T21:50:16Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > I’m sure they had a lot of local support. When “local” means “Greater Los Angeles,” that’s a shit-ton of support. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2023, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6061 "2023-08-03T21:58:46Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > Sex Pistols Good examples …but the x is right there in the name for this one. Though I guess they don’t have it separate or capitalized or something like that ---
**Author:** ![epbrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@epbrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6062 "2023-08-04T01:00:10Z")
Dude, you were supposed to stop following her 40 years ago. I like to listen to my 80s punk playlist unsullied by the news that X are conservative whack-jobs or Killing Joke is full or anti-vaxxers. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6063 "2023-08-04T01:22:56Z")
The lead singer of Killing Joke has always been a nut bag, he was convinced the apocalypse was just around the corner in the 80s. No slight on the music; Killing Joke was actually the first band I ever saw live, at Shitty Garbage. +1 80s trivia points to you if you know the venue I’m talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6064 "2023-08-04T02:03:24Z")
Speaking of '80s bands gone wrong, seminal metal band Iced Earth broke up after its founding guitarist got arrested for trying to overthrow democracy and got put in the Witness Protection Program. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iced\_Earth#Planned\_thirteenth\_studio\_album,\_Schaffer’s\_arrest,\_and\_lineup\_changes\_(2020–present)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iced_Earth#Planned_thirteenth_studio_album,_Schaffer's_arrest,_and_lineup_changes_(2020%E2%80%93present)) ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6065 "2023-08-04T04:18:43Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > and got put in the Witness Protection Program. Who did he flip on to get this special treatment? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=302) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=304)