# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
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> [@Dissonance](#):
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> +1 80s trivia points to you if you know the venue I’m talking about.

The _Trenton_ Shitty Garbage?

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**Author:** ![yendis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ed8c4c/32.png) [@yendis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yendis)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6067 "2023-08-04T12:27:33Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> > [@Cervaise](#):
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> > Musk is blissfully oblivious to the fact that he is required to comply with a law.
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> And he whines about not having ad revenue:
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> > “They want us to pay _them_ for traffic to their site where they make advertising revenue and we don’t!?”
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> Shouldn’t have been driving your advertisers away, Elmo.

Yet Musk will happily give away a share of what little ad revenue x still gets to people like Andrew Tate.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6068 "2023-08-04T15:03:51Z")

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[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Ol_KMUHTBE8/maxresdefault.jpg "How Many Things Could Be Called "X"?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol_KMUHTBE8)

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6069 "2023-08-04T17:52:12Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> > [@Dissonance](#):
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> > +1 80s trivia points to you if you know the venue I’m talking about.
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> The _Trenton_ Shitty Garbage?

Why yes, the ironically named City Gardens located in scenic Trenton, NJ.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6070 "2023-08-04T21:46:22Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> This is what we’ve learned over the past few years about how to be a successful business:
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> - Don’t pay your suppliers; threaten to sue them
> - Pass responsibility off to others
> - Get your name in the news - good or bad, doesn’t matter
> - Insult others in a juvenile fashion on social media
> - Keep the grift pipeline going
> - If in doubt about a bad idea, double down
> - Borrow money; claim you are rich

Apparently it’s also a way to get Republican voters to get you into the White House once.

> [@Smapti](#):
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> I saw; “It’s like changing McDonald’s to M. I’m going to M to get the 2-patty 3-bun meat sandwich with potato logs and a fluid cup.”

Hey, it seems to work for ~~Kentucky Fried Chicken~~ KFC.

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6071 "2023-08-04T22:00:32Z")

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I’m going to disagree with the KFC point - most of the people I knew were calling it that long before that became the ‘official’ name. Just because it was faster to say.

I’m not saying it’s a _good_ choice, but it is different from taking Twitter, with a unique name and terminology, and dropping all of it for something quite out of the blue (heh).

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6072 "2023-08-04T22:17:56Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> > [@Smapti](#):
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> > I saw; “It’s like changing McDonald’s to M. I’m going to M to get the 2-patty 3-bun meat sandwich with potato logs and a fluid cup.”
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> Hey, it seems to work for ~~Kentucky Fried Chicken~~ KFC.

KFC is different. Besides the above-mentioned point that everybody was calling it that anyway, the change was a deliberate attempt to remove the “fried” connotation from the name, due to perceptions about health. It’s still unhealthy as all hell, but at least now it doesn’t tell you that in the name.

“X” is just ridiculous nonsense that heavily undermines the brand.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6073 "2023-08-04T22:52:26Z")

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It wouldn’t be a terrible initial (I crack me up!) name. But there is a lot of brand equity in the name and branding of Twitter and theoretically that _might_ justify goodwill and a competent businessman paying forty-four million American dollars for it.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6074 "2023-08-04T23:14:23Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Besides the above-mentioned point that everybody was calling it that anyway, the change was a deliberate attempt to remove the “fried” connotation from the name, due to perceptions about health.

They also started selling grilled chicken (which I think tastes a lot better than their fried chicken).

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6075 "2023-08-04T23:22:54Z")

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Maybe he will call it [TwiX](https://foodtruckempire.com/specialty-food/candy-bar-slogans/#twix),…

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…“Two for me. None for you!” - (What Elon’s motto really is…)

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**Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6076 "2023-08-04T23:44:03Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> paying forty-four million American dollars

Especially if he does so a thousand times.

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6077 "2023-08-05T00:12:48Z")

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That too. I quoted its current value? I hate it when I am out of order…

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6078 "2023-08-05T00:32:05Z")

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Musk reminds me of the [Roman emperor Commodus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodus#Megalomania_(190%E2%80%93192)), known for his megalomania.

Does this behavior sound familiar?

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> Perhaps seeing this as an opportunity, early in 192 Commodus, declaring himself the new Romulus, ritually re-founded Rome, renaming the city _Colonia Lucia Annia Commodiana_. All the months of the year were renamed to correspond exactly with his (now twelve) names: _Lucius_, _Aelius_, _Aurelius_, _Commodus_, _Augustus_, _Herculeus_, _Romanus_, _Exsuperatorius_, _Amazonius_, _Invictus_, _Felix_, and _Pius_. The legions were renamed _Commodianae_, the fleet which imported grain from Africa was termed _Alexandria Commodiana Togata_, the Senate was entitled the Commodian Fortunate Senate, his palace and the Roman people themselves were all given the name _Commodianus_, and the day on which these reforms were decreed was to be called _Dies Commodianus_.

Like Musk, Commodus wanted to fight in the Colosseum in Rome, although, unlike Musk, he actually did.

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6079 "2023-08-05T04:56:02Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> the change was a deliberate attempt to remove the “fried” connotation from the name, due to perceptions about health. It’s still unhealthy as all hell, but at least now it doesn’t tell you that in the name.

What! That [never happens](https://www.metv.com/stories/6-cereals-from-our-childhood-that-got-rid-of-the-word-sugar).

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> They also started selling grilled chicken (which I think tastes a lot better than their fried chicken).

Then they got rid of the grilled chicken and replaced it with a sandwich where the fried chicken was the bun.

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Then they got rid of the grilled chicken and replaced it with a sandwich where the fried chicken was the bun.

No they didn’t, the “Double Down” was released in 2010 and discontinued in 2014, it hasn’t been around for almost a decade. Though it was released for a limited time earlier this year.

The grilled chicken was introduced a year before the Double Down and has never left the menu. You can still get it, it’s a permanent option alongside the original recipe and extra crispy. (There is also a newer “spicy” chicken option, but I don’t know if that’s a permanent item.)

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6082 "2023-08-05T08:34:20Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> The grilled chicken was introduced a year before the Double Down and has never left the menu. You can still get it, it’s a permanent option alongside the original recipe and extra crispy.

Not around here it isn’t. I just checked the KFC website and the Doordash page for a KFC in my area and neither list grilled chicken as an option.

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They’re still on the menu here, they never left.

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**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6084 "2023-08-05T10:04:36Z")

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Well, since this is now the KFC thread 😉 … I haven’t been to KFC in years, but I checked the menu, and around here they have buckets, boxes, combos, sandwiches, wraps, and even “plant-based” sandwiches and wraps – but nothing that says “grilled” to distinguish it from “fried”. Just to add a data point, is all.

If anyone wants to hijack this KFC thread to say something about Elmo and Twitter, please feel free. 🙂

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Elon Musk the kind of guy to buy KFC just to put grilled chicken back ok the menu.

Like that?

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