# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 307
**Author:** ![epbrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@epbrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6126 "2023-08-08T00:57:47Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > The problem with your fantasy is that Zuck would skate on a “he needed killin’” defense. No jury in the universe would convict. You’re under-estimating the fanaticism of muskrats. The CFO of Tesla walked off the job today without even the most banal PR cover and people that didn’t know his name yesterday are claiming he was dead weight holding back Elon’s dream. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6127 "2023-08-08T01:29:59Z")
> [@epbrown](#): > > You’re under-estimating the fanaticism of muskrats. I know enough to say they wouldn’t get on any competently-composed jury. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6128 "2023-08-08T01:34:52Z")
> [@epbrown](#): > > You’re under-estimating the fanaticism of muskrats. It’s a very very good thing that Elmo can never run for president, because a disturbing number of people would probably vote for him. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6129 "2023-08-08T01:57:42Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > It’s a very very good thing that Elmo can never run for president, because a disturbing number of people would probably vote for him. Ted Cruz ran, and he was born in Canada. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6130 "2023-08-08T02:04:16Z")
Cruz was still a US citizen by birth (assuming that giant plague rats wearing the skin of a human they eviscerated and devoured are eligible for citizenship, that is). Elmo isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6131 "2023-08-08T02:05:00Z")
It would be hard to decide who to cheer for. I understand Trump has wrestling experience. As long as successful egotists want to physically engage to win attention and achieve yet more, is it to much to ask for a Battle Royale? Trump, Musk, Orban and Putin could take on Pence, Zuck, Soros and Navalny and these stupid and damaging grudges could be addressed in a more entertaining and less sociopathic way. No doubt Zuck is impressive but I would perhaps have more confidence in a competition outside the confines of Silicon Valley. I’m sure he is good, but I also bet Trump beats most of the people he golfs with. No doubt Zuck and Musk can afford the best trainers. As for their actual fitness, does Musk have any significant past sporting moments? Maybe it doesn’t much matter. But Trudeau was able to outbox Brazeau, who had claimed to have much more experience. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6132 "2023-08-08T02:10:05Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > As long as successful egotists want to physically engage to win attention and achieve yet more, is it to much to ask for a Battle Royale? Trump, Musk, Orban and Putin could take on Pence, Zuck, Soros and Navalny and these stupid and damaging grudges could be addressed in a more entertaining and less sociopathic way. Nitpick from a wrestling fan: Battle royals are ostensibly every man for himself. You’re thinking of an eight-man tag-team match. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6133 "2023-08-08T02:10:34Z")
You are correct. It’s been a while. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6134 "2023-08-08T04:03:30Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Cruz was still a US citizen by birth (assuming that giant plague rats wearing the skin of a human they eviscerated and devoured are eligible for citizenship, that is). Elmo isn’t. How does that work exactly? He was born in Calgary. Personal details Born Rafael Edward Cruz December 22, 1970(age 52) [Calgary, Alberta](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calgary,_Alberta), Canada Citizenship \* United States - Canada (1970–2014) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6135 "2023-08-08T04:19:57Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > How does that work exactly? He was born in Calgary. His mother was an American citizen. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6136 "2023-08-08T04:20:33Z")
Right; she was born in Delaware. His father was a Cuban citizen. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6137 "2023-08-08T04:21:18Z")
[Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship by a Child Born Abroad](https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/us-citizenship/Acquisition-US-Citizenship-Child-Born-Abroad.html#:~:text=A%20person%20born%20abroad%20in,prior%20to%20the%20person's%20birth). > [@](#): > > A person born abroad in wedlock to a U.S. citizen and an alien acquires U.S. citizenship at birth if the U.S. citizen parent has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions prior to the person’s birth for the period required by the statute in effect when the person was born (INA 301(g), formerly INA 301(a)(7)). For a person of Cruz’s age, that period of time is 10 years, five of which are after the age of 14. Mama Cruz was 35 at the time of his birth and had lived in the US most of her life, and as such met those requirements. Ironically, he’s a citizen in the same way that Obama would still have been a citizen if he had been born in Kenya like birthers claimed. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6138 "2023-08-08T05:57:30Z")
Well, I guess that’s do it then. Thanks for clarifying. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6139 "2023-08-08T14:39:20Z")
John McCain was born in Panama, though technically in the US because at the time the Panama Canal Zone was a US territory (until 1979). He wasn’t given US citizenship until he was almost 11 months old. He was not only allowed to run for POTUS, he won the nomination as a Republican. Musk doesn’t have any of those technicalities to justify a run. There would need to be a change to the constitution to allow it. So I think we are safe from that at least. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6140 "2023-08-08T16:01:35Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > That is a great reply. Ugh. Cheering on Zuckerberg feels so wrong. I know the code of Thunderdome is “Two men enter! One man leaves!”, but can’t we make an exception in this case so its “Two men enter! No man leaves!”? ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6141 "2023-08-08T17:19:46Z")
But Noman is an island, not a tree. I’ll let myself out ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6142 "2023-08-08T20:46:49Z")
With the new sensitivity settings for advertisers, using the “relaxed” setting, advertisers will be free to place they’re adverts next to “gratuitous gore”: > ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2023, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6143 "2023-08-08T23:37:45Z")
It’s nice to learn that “Content that is in violation of X’s Rules” does not include “targeted hate speech” or “spam” or, here’s the real interesting one, “obscenity”. Umm, Elmo? Might want to check what the law says about publishing obscenity. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.E](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.e/32/8932_2.png) [@Mr.E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.E)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6144 "2023-08-09T00:16:09Z")
Guessing “Relaxed” will be cheaper and that’s where all the fake storefronts and crypto spammers will flock. Now if there was only a way for users to decide what level of sensitivity they prefer. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2023, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6145 "2023-08-09T00:33:30Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > But Noman is… [The National Organization of Marital Attorneys Nationwide?](https://1.bp.blogspot.com/__ZC6F3SCITU/S2nhjl_TXlI/AAAAAAAAB7w/_P5WknoAyr8/s280/IC+NOMAN.bmp) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=306) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=308)