# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 316
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2023, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6306 "2023-08-19T00:01:15Z")
Elmo is currently boosting for Vivek Ramaswamy, so in Loser Donald’s mind he’s VERY DISLOYAL! and KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT “TRUMP”, so he won’t be coming back unless Elmo repents and pledges his undying fealty to him. > ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2023, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6307 "2023-08-19T00:07:26Z")
Also, Trump presents himself as the “creator” of TruthSocial. So returning to Twitter would be an admission that Twitter is better than something he created, which his pathological narcissism could never tolerate. All he needs is the ability to bloviate while sitting on one of his gilded toilets and having the media quote him, and TruthSocial is just fine for that. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2023, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6308 "2023-08-19T00:54:10Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > I also think his half assed revenue model does rely on people seeing tweets, and there are people who are auto blocking blue checks. I’ve certainly blocked a ton of ads. I think that this is definately it, particularly as the number of advertisers dwindle. If there are thousands of advertisers there isn’t a whole lot of incentive to block, say Safeway, You don’t get that many Safeway ads and if you block them they will just get replaced on your feed by some other company. But if there are only a few dozen advertisers and all of them are for gold coins, penis enlargers and crypto currencies. Then there is an incentive to block the penis enlargement company that sends the same ad up on your feed twice a day. If everyone blocks all of the advertisers then twitter is doomed (or at least more doomed than it currently is). ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2023, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6309 "2023-08-19T01:02:06Z")
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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2023, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6310 "2023-08-19T01:51:33Z")
But Elmo fixed the bot issue! That was his first priority after taking over! Fake news! /s ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2023, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6311 "2023-08-19T02:38:33Z")
Cory Doctorow gets a lot of buzz and he deserves even more. > **[Fool Me Twice We Don’t Get Fooled Again](https://doctorow.medium.com/fool-me-twice-we-dont-get-fooled-again-20074e311f1f)** > > There’s a crucial difference between federatable and federated. Cory is not on Bluesky and he’s not on threads: > Look, I’m done. I poured years and endless hours into establishing myself on walled garden services administered with varying degrees of competence and benevolence, only to have those services use my own sunk costs to trap me within their silos even as they siphoned value from my side of the ledger to their own. It’s not just that tech bros are bastards: > [@Cory Doctorow](#): > > Many is the tech CEO who reasoned that selling out their users was the _moral_ thing to do, because the alternative was firing dozens or hundreds of people who trusted them, quit their jobs, and jeopardized their mortgages and kids’ college funds to come work for the company. > > Seen in that light, selling out your users is actually an act of noble self-sacrifice, in which your loyalty to your friends trumps even your pride in delivering a high-quality product. > > You might be tempted to do the same thing. I know that I’ve been guilty of motivated reasoning in the past. Being a moral actor lies not merely in making the right choice in the moment, but in anticipating the times when you may choose poorly in future, and taking steps to head that off. That’s why you can’t depend upon big tech to protect its uses. Talk is cheap: what you need is pre-committment. Something like the Creative Commons license, or in this case a [federated service](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse). Cory: **[Enshittification](https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys) isn’t merely the result of greed or foolishness — it is the _inevitable_ consequence of a captive userbase.** So put some thought into what you want to do with your downtime. It’s your dance. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2023, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6312 "2023-08-19T15:48:18Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > I think it’s fairly clearly written to say that the owner of the app needs to be able to block problem users from posting content on their platform. Unless each and every user of the app has the admin access to the system (which is clearly absurd), that’s not consistent with the statement that the _app_ has to include blocking ability. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2023, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6313 "2023-08-20T00:23:20Z")
[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F35JL_qWgAApJqo?format=jpg&name=small) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F35JL_qWgAApJqo?format=jpg&name=small) ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2023, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6314 "2023-08-20T01:10:58Z")
The quality of the ads for me have improved since Elmo took over. I get more gizmos and toys. Not so lucrative for twitter, but best ad quality for me. I even bought one of the products via Amazon (though not by clicking the ad). ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2023, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6315 "2023-08-20T03:48:51Z")
Worth listening to? Maybe, for some Qublicans, but voting for? Never. That party will never forgive America for voting in a half-Black person to the White House, so you know they’ll never actually vote into said domicile an all Brown person with (as they’re likely to say) “a hard to say/un-American name”. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2023, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6316 "2023-08-20T13:13:03Z")
lol > ---
**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2023, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6317 "2023-08-20T14:02:30Z")
The thinnest of thin skinned men has reacted to catturd2 calling his block removal proposal dumb by… blocking catturd2 [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3-enTNXEAAjVkg?format=jpg&name=large) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3-enTNXEAAjVkg?format=jpg&name=large) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2023, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6318 "2023-08-20T16:27:01Z")
> I don’t wanna be in the room when Elmo comes down this time. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2023, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6319 "2023-08-20T16:44:10Z")
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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2023, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6320 "2023-08-20T16:49:45Z")
Does this read as ‘You can’t quit me! I’m fired!’ to anyone else? ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6321 "2023-08-21T02:00:01Z")
> > > The irony of this is that that’s what Twitter used to be before Musk started destroying it. Anyone, whether a signed-up Twitter user or not, used to be able to visit people’s Twitter pages, see their tweets and replies, and anyone was able to search Twitter, by both trending and latest tweets. It was the foremost communication tool in the world and the place to go if you wanted to find out what an individual person, a company or government entity was saying, or just to find out what anyone was saying about a particular topic. Now, if one is not signed up to “X”, one can’t do any of that - well, at time of writing one can visit someone’s “X” profile, but only to see their all-time most-popular tweets/“X’s”. It’s constantly changing - a few weeks ago, one couldn’t even visit a “X” profile without being logged in. One can no longer search “X” without being signed up to it. Far from being “humanity’s collective consciousness” or “the group chat for Earth”, what was Twitter is now a gated community exclusively for X users. There’s a big hole in the internet where the universal communication hub that Twitter used to be once existed. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6322 "2023-08-21T05:30:41Z")
At this point I’m starting to wonder if there’s a single waking minute where Elon _isn’t_ stoned out of his gourd. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6323 "2023-08-21T10:34:35Z")
IF Elon blocks you, does that mean you will never see his tweets? Because I’m not seeing a downside here. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6324 "2023-08-21T13:40:08Z")
He is really giving “being stoned” a bad name. Fucking evil bastard. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6325 "2023-08-21T14:42:24Z")
(Perhaps taking the comments too literally): Yeah, whatever it is, I don’t feel it’s being stoned, as in cannabis. Those are some pretty aggressive tweets for a stoner. (Unless “stoner” is being used to describe any drug user. This feels more like amphetamines, coke, hell, even alcohol. Or, um, just being an asshole.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=315) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=317)