# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 338
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6746 "2023-09-20T06:18:35Z")
It’s not great offensively since it doesn’t have weapons, but it’s extremely fast and outfitted with sensors to detect an attack in advance so as to dodge it. Though saying “it’s great at **avoiding** battles” would be much more accurate. The Blackbird was built for reconnaissance and that’s what it was used for. Since being fully retired in ‘99 (NASA was the last organization to deploy them) their role has been taken over by unmanned aircraft. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6747 "2023-09-20T07:26:54Z")
Combining both that and GW being sue-happy, there’s Arch née Arch Warhammer before GW served him with a cease and desist on using the word Warhammer in his handle because he’s a neo-Nazi. I hadn’t even considered the Adeptus Mechanicus being from Elmo’s favorite planet, Mars and their love/hate relationship with AI as an abomination unless they swing more to the heretical side of things, kind of like how Elmo considers AI the second greatest threat to humanity behind underpopulation of rich white people yet names X Æ A-Xii after AI, just the name similarity in their third child. Maybe Elmo really did want to name their third child Adeptus Mechanicus. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6748 "2023-09-20T09:48:16Z")
I think he’s more suited for a character from one of the _inspirations_ for Warhammer 40K - the Arch-Bigot of Termight, Broder Kruger, from _2000 AD_’s _Nemesis the Warlock_ > **[Broder Kruger](https://britishcomics.fandom.com/wiki/Broder_Kruger)** > > Broder Kruger is a character from the 2000 AD strip Nemesis the Warlock. He was the Arch-Bigot of Termight who worked under Kassan and the Grand Dragon Mazarin, and he spoke with a very pronounced South African accent. After it was decided that a new... ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6749 "2023-09-20T11:46:14Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I’ve seen a number of righties, fascists, and Elmo stans who are in general bad at understanding satire or subtext and think that the Imperium in 40k is a glorious utopia keeping the light of civilization shining in the darkness, Absolutely. A couple years back, GW made some public statements to the effect of “y’all, the humans are bad guys in our setting and also our nazi fans can fuck right off.” ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6750 "2023-09-20T13:12:14Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > I just so curious how an aircraft that has “No weapons, no defenses, just speed” is “Great in battle”? Minstrel [singing] Brave SR ran away… SR-71 No! Minstrel [singing] bravely ran away away… SR : I didn’t! Minstrel : [singing] When danger reared its ugly head, he bravely turned his tail and fled. SR : I never did! Minstrel : [singing] Yes, brave SR turned about, and valiantly, he chickened out. SR : Oh, you liars! Minstrel : [singing] Bravely with afterburner heat, he beat a very brave retreat. A brave retreat by brave SR. ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6751 "2023-09-20T14:05:19Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > That’s another thing we have to thank Elmo for. If not for him, I wouldn’t know that Grimes isn’t very smart. Some of already knew a little bit more about her from the time she tried to float down the Mississippi on a raft packed with chickens. Spoiler: she didn’t get very far and mostly lived in a public park where the boat beached. > **[This boat don't float](https://www.startribune.com/this-boat-don-t-float/49134952/?c=y&page=all&prepage=1#continue)** > > Dreaming of a Huck Finn-style adventure on the Mississippi, a young couple are instead afoul of the law. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6752 "2023-09-20T14:21:54Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > Absolutely. A couple years back, GW made some public statements to the effect of “y’all, the humans are bad guys in our setting and also our nazi fans can fuck right off.” What is GW in this context? ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6753 "2023-09-20T14:22:49Z")
Games Workshop (creators of the Warhammer franchise). ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6754 "2023-09-20T14:24:09Z")
Thanks! I could only think of Guild Wars. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6755 "2023-09-20T14:30:18Z")
> [@Pork\_Rind](#): > > Some of already knew a little bit more about her from the time she tried to float down the Mississippi on a raft packed with chickens. Spoiler: she didn’t get very far and mostly lived in a public park where the boat beached. Honestly, I hope folks their age always have a reach that exceeds their grasp and dreams that exceed their competence; and I wish they would all do so in such a charmingly harmless fashion. But what does that story have to do with Grimes? Edit: OOPS! Just did some googling to realize that Grimes’ name was originally Claire Boucher, and [she’s the same one as in that story](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimes#Personal_life). My bad! ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6756 "2023-09-20T14:35:59Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > GW made some public statements to the effect of “y’all, the humans are bad guys in our setting Who are the good guys? (I have issues with WH40k. I think when it comes to the Imperium, GW is trying to have its cake and eat it too - publicly decrying them as evil, but at the same time setting up their universe to make them irreplaceable). ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6757 "2023-09-20T14:38:50Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Who are the good guys? Literally nobody. (…says the chaos player…) ETA: to be fair, there are good _individuals_, but each faction is really just a different flavor of evil. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6758 "2023-09-20T14:40:44Z")
> [@Kron](#): > > ETA: to be fair, there are good _individuals_, but each faction is really just a different flavor of evil. Are there good individuals in Chaos? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6759 "2023-09-20T14:41:39Z")
> **[Donald Trump Jr.’s X account hacked, claims father died](https://nypost.com/2023/09/20/donald-trump-jrs-x-account-hacked-2/)** > > Donald Trump Jr.’s account on X was hacked early Wednesday, sending a series of offensive tweets — including a sickening one falsely announcing the death of his dad, former President Donald Trump. … ![](https://media3.giphy.com/media/Q8OOs80Hb5Bj1qNA1d/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b952wk9z1rchotx2usvmuob02ccf7qbh4lq0j7uzle6a&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g) ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6760 "2023-09-20T14:44:36Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Who are the good guys? The Farsight Enclaves of the Tau and the Leagues of Votann are both “good guy” factions without the evil bits associated with other factions. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6761 "2023-09-20T14:47:04Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > > [@Kron](#): > > > > ETA: to be fair, there are good _individuals_, but each faction is really just a different flavor of evil. > > Are there good individuals in Chaos? #MagnusDidNothingWrong There are examples of people falling to Chaos for the “right” reasons (Chaos tends to play off of the desires of mortals to make them fall) and my favorite Chaos Space Marine legion may or may not be on the side of Chaos specifically for the betterment of all (though that’s unclear)… ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6762 "2023-09-20T14:47:57Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > The Farsight Enclaves of the Tau and the Leagues of Votann are both “good guy” factions without the evil bits associated with other factions. I thought they cancelled the Squats. I also understand that WH decided that the Tau were too nice and gave them a whole busload of dark secrets. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6763 "2023-09-20T14:48:39Z")
WH40K is the definitive tabletop RPG crapsack world. It’s so full of crapsack tropes that TVTropes was forced to give it its own dedicated page. > **[Warhammer 40,000 / Crapsack World - TV Tropes](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/CrapsackWorld/Warhammer40000)** > > Warhammer 40,000 manages to be such a spectacularly suck-tastic place to live that it eventually had to be made into its own page. Let's count the ways, shall we? Between the eternally warmongering, xenophobic and corrupt factions fighting for … I hope this serves as insight into Elmo’s mindset. To him, _this_ is where humanity should end up. ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6764 "2023-09-20T14:50:18Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > > [@Alessan](#): > > > > Who are the good guys? > > The Farsight Enclaves of the Tau and the Leagues of Votann are both “good guy” factions without the evil bits associated with other factions. Of course, Farsight just might be semi-controlled by a daemon-possessed blade, and Votann (the only non-Chaos army I also play) do have that whole “classic Dwarven greed” thing going on. Honestly, though, I think Votann might have supplanted T’au as the closest thing to a “good” faction in 40K currently. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6765 "2023-09-20T14:54:04Z")
> [@Pork\_Rind](#): > > Some of already knew a little bit more about her from the time she tried to float down the Mississippi on a raft packed with chickens. From the article: > [@](#): > > Calling themselves Veruschka and Zelda Xox… 😑 > [@MrDibble](#): > > The Farsight Enclaves of the Tau… “Tau” is the nickname of Musk son Techno Mechanicus. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=337) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=339)