# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 343
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6846 "2023-09-24T20:56:33Z")
This is a deliberate misrepresentation on his part. What he’s been doing is conflating impressions with views. Every time you scroll past a tweet on your feed or a video plays for two seconds, that counts as an impression, and he’s treating every one as if they read the whole tweet or watched the whole video, and he’s acting as if every impression represents a unique viewer and not one person scrolling past the same post 50 times. I earnestly expect him to claim at some point that 11 billion people watched the latest Tucker Carlson video, “not including the bots”. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2023, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6847 "2023-09-24T21:05:42Z")
Well yes, but on top of that I wouldn’t regard a single statistic on his executive dashboard as reliable or trustworthy. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2023, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6848 "2023-09-24T21:18:38Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Every time you scroll past a tweet on your feed or a video plays for two seconds, that counts as an impression… It’s actually slightly worse than that - impressions and video view counts are different. Here are the definitions from X/Twitter Help… Impression: “Times a user is served a post in timeline or search results” Video View count: “The main X video view metric is triggered when a user watches a video for at least 2 seconds and sees at least 50% of the video player in-view.” ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2023, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6849 "2023-09-24T21:25:21Z")
If an impression is scrolled past in the woods and no eyeballs looked up on, does it trigger a view? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2023, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6850 "2023-09-24T21:37:35Z")
I also like the “… and rising” part. I guess we’re supposed to believe that new users are flocking in droves to this mismanaged total shambles which is now mainly only attractive to Nazis. Only Twitter insiders have any idea what the real numbers are, and I’m sure that even Elmo, as a petulant and vindictive man-child, isn’t getting them. All this information about massive numbers of new users comes to you from the same guy who blamed the Jews for the drop in revenue. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2023, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6851 "2023-09-24T21:40:51Z")
Yes, even with mimes. More on video impressions vs views: > > ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2023, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6852 "2023-09-24T23:47:15Z")
Elmo is truly a complicated man; he blathers on about AI being the second biggest threat to humanity behind underpopulation, yet names one of his children after the Elfish word for artificial intelligence (at least according to Grimes). He talks with Netanyahu about how to harness AI while mitigating its risks to destroy humanity while blaming the Jews for being behind sabotaging his business ventures and being the number one cause of antisemitism. > [@Smapti](#): > > I earnestly expect him to claim at some point that 11 billion people watched the latest Tucker Carlson video, “not including the bots”. Good call, he’s already claiming the number of views of Tucker Carlson on Twitter exceeds the population of the United States. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6853 "2023-09-25T00:32:36Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > Elmo is truly a complicated man; he blathers on about AI being the second biggest threat to humanity behind underpopulation, yet names one of his children after the Elfish word for artificial intelligence (at least according to Grimes). He talks with Netanyahu about how to harness AI while mitigating its risks to destroy humanity while blaming the Jews for being behind sabotaging his business ventures and being the number one cause of antisemitism. I don’t think it’s that complicated at all. Elmo hates humanity (especially Jews), so it makes total sense. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6854 "2023-09-25T01:38:59Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > I’m reasonably confident that much if not most of the information being delivered to him by exhausted underlings is altered if not entirely fictional. Musk seems like a messenger killer. So if he’s demanding expansion of content views, his staff will make him a Potemkin village of reports that say exactly that. oddly enough - what you are describing is not unlike what Putin gets to see/hear … once you start throwing the messengers out of the window / under the bus … you will only get a pre-screened sub-set of reality presented … 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6855 "2023-09-25T01:46:05Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Elmo hates humanity (especially Jews), so it makes total sense. That’s not quite it. Elmo _likes_ humanity - it’s just that he read Dune when he was 14 or so, took the first chapter _way_ too seriously, and has managed to build a worldview around believing that most homo sapiens either aren’t real (cf his obsession with simulation theory, _The Matrix_, and “NPCs”) or don’t count as fully human (apartheid). ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6856 "2023-09-25T03:42:49Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > don’t count as fully human (apartheid) Yeah, I should say he probably hates most humans, those that don’t meet his “standards”. You know, the ones he won’t let on his Space Ark when he colonizes Mars. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6857 "2023-09-25T03:46:15Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > You know, the ones he won’t let on his Space Ark when he colonizes Mars. > You will note the soldiers keeping the dark-skinned hordes away at gunpoint. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6858 "2023-09-25T04:09:30Z")
That’s just what I was thinking of. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6859 "2023-09-25T04:13:40Z")
What pulp story is that image from? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6860 "2023-09-25T04:41:33Z")
Apparently it’s a 1968 painting called “The Ark of Space” by sci-fi illustrator Shigeru Komatsuzaki. But I don’t know where it was originally published. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6861 "2023-09-25T04:52:18Z")
Oh wait, [maybe I do:](http://www.yamato.free.fr/autour/shin_senkan_yamato.php) > [@](#): > > A propos de l’arche de Noé, on notera que Komatsuzaki Shigeru a signé peu après ce projet, en 1968, une magnifique illustration représentant une énorme fusée coucher sur une rampe de lancement, l’engin accueillant à son bord une multitude d’espèces animales. On pouvait lire le nom du vaisseau sur son flanc « Ark of Space », l’ensemble évoquant sensiblement la vision du film _Le Choc des mondes_ (1951) de Rudolph Maté (1898-1964). Cette oeuvre de Komatsuzaki s’inspirait directement de l’illustration « Futuristic Noah’s Ark » produite par Howard V. Brown (1878-1945) en novembre 1939 pour la couverture du magazine _Startling Stories_ avec le même nom gravé sur la coque du vaisseau (ce grand illustrateur étatsunien de l’âge d’or des pulps signa de même moult travaux pour de nombreux autres magazines tels pour le même genre _Thrilling Wonder Stories_ et le célèbre _Astounding Stories_ ). > > [About Noah’s Ark, we note that Komatsuzaki Shigeru shortly after this project, in 1968, designed (?) a magnificent illustration representing an enormous rocket lying on a launchpad, welcoming on board a multitude of animal species. One can read the vessel name “Ark of Space” on its side, the whole evoking distinctly the vision of the film _When Worlds Collide_ (1951) by Rudolph Maté (1898-1964). This work of Komatsuzaki was directly inspired by the illustration “Futuristic Noah’s Ark” produced by Howard V. Brown (1878-1945) in November 1939 for the cover of the magazine _Startling Stories_ with the same name engraved on the hull of the vessel (this great American illustrator of the Golden Age of pulps similarly drew (?) many works for numerous other such magazines for the same genre, _Thrilling Wonder Stories_ and the well-known _Astounding Stories_).] And finally, [everything you ever wanted to know about sci-fi versions of Noah’s Ark pictures courtesy of Attempted Bloggery,](https://attemptedbloggery.blogspot.com/2017/01/updating-noahs-ark-charles-addams-and.html) including a reproduction of Brown’s 1939 magazine cover. (Which, interestingly, appears to show white armed guards repulsing a crowd of overwhelmingly or entirely white would-be refugees.) ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6862 "2023-09-26T20:37:36Z")
A glimpse into the mind of Elon Musk: > ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6863 "2023-09-28T11:19:53Z")
> > > > ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6864 "2023-09-28T20:46:31Z")
Elmo tells AOC that FEMA isn’t doing enough to prevent natural disasters from happening. > ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2023, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/6865 "2023-09-28T20:53:11Z")
Elmo probably heard from MTG that the Joos have space lasers they use to control the weather. If only the Joos would use their space lasers for good to prevent natural disasters instead of starting wildfires with them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=342) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=344)