# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 353
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7046 "2023-10-07T06:08:23Z")
I wonder if it also includes all the outstanding debts on unpaid rents, unpaid severance, unpaid vendors, etc etc etc. And if it included any projections on probably upcoming fines for gross violation of EU requirements. Of course it didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7047 "2023-10-07T13:56:11Z")
You kidding? He probably added another $210 (or multiple thereof) for passing go and coming second place in a beauty contest. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7048 "2023-10-07T14:42:41Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > The first highlighted line shows that, once everything is accounted for, Twitter is cash positive from operations. The bottom line shows that once investments and financing activities are accounted for, Twitter’s cash position has increased by $200 million a year for the past 2 years. In short, prior to Elon buying it, the company was cash flow positive, both from operations and after accounting for financing activities. How about now? > [@Dissonance](#): > > She additionally noted the company would be cash-flow positive if not for the debt owed – a figure that’s now $13 billion. From the financials posted in my first quote, Twitter was CF+ by about $200,000,000 per year. If this report is true about the $1.2 billion in annual interest being paid on the debt used to purchase the company, then… all things being equal… Twitter is losing $1,000,000,000 a year, $84 million a month, in _cash_. I don’t GAF if you’re the richest man in the world, you cannot sustain such losses in perpetuity. (Quote is from the article @Dissonance posted and not by Dissonance, fyi.) ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7049 "2023-10-07T16:25:31Z")
I’m having some withdrawal symptoms for twitter(fuck you Elon), but he’s like Trump to me now. A hateful racist asshole so I’ll never go there again, but I’m pissed about it. I really miss all the postings by the Ukraine people and The Angry Staffer and so many others. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7050 "2023-10-07T16:42:54Z")
lol people are so clever > ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7051 "2023-10-07T17:00:12Z")
I like how [Musk nearly ruins the take](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfiRd4Y5z_g&t=30s&ab_channel=ShortClips) by showing his back to the camera, but old pro Downey Jr repositions him to save having to do it again. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7052 "2023-10-07T18:43:49Z")
Good catch. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7053 "2023-10-07T19:11:56Z")
One thing I will say that I think we can all agree on - Removing the titles from linked stories is a seriously stupid move. I suspect it will get Twitter in trouble when people intentionally mischaracterize linked articles. He needs to reverse that decision ASAP. And they should put in a ‘beta’ mode to test these features with select members of the public before releasing them generally on Elon’s whim. Also, I keep saying Twitter because ‘X’ is a stupid name. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7054 "2023-10-07T20:19:27Z")
Stop saying things that make sense Sam. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2023, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7055 "2023-10-07T20:28:04Z")
It looks to me like a classic example of upstaging. The reason they call it upstaging is that the performer pulling the move (first performer) moves towards the back of the stage (upstage), away from the camera or audience. This forces the second performer to turn away from the audience in order to maintain eye contact with the first performer, and it draws attention to the first performer. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7056 "2023-10-08T21:39:49Z")
Elmo is now endorsing an openly anti-semitic poster as the best source for news about the Gaza War. > ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7057 "2023-10-08T23:10:56Z")
My goodness that guy has an artistic grasp of the English language … amirite? /s ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7058 "2023-10-08T23:43:16Z")
Our man of peace in action. Be sure to add interesting options in the replies below to increase engagement and earn me more money from this human tragedy! At least his leitmotif is consistent across wars, find a way to make a profit off of them. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2023, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7059 "2023-10-08T23:48:01Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Stop saying things that make sense Sam. I understand the feeling, but disagree. I think the trend should be encouraged! If so, I will whole-heartedly consider revising -my- opinions as well. Here’s hoping. 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7060 "2023-10-09T00:42:37Z")
Several of the accounts I follow on Twitter/X have announced they are moving all activities to Threads. I guess that’s the sign I need to open an account on Threads myself. ETA: So far I’m not a fan of the user interface. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7061 "2023-10-09T02:01:21Z")
Elmo to @WarMonitors: please stop simping for Hamas or I will have no choice but to politely stop recommending that people follow you. > ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7062 "2023-10-09T02:25:52Z")
Not to worry, Elmo has already taken the brave step of deleting his tweet recommending them as good sources of information after they were viewed 11 million times. Also, shockingly, they turn out to not be good sources of information after all, in ways not strictly limited to antisemitism. > **[As false war information spreads on X, Musk promotes unvetted accounts](https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/10/08/israel-hamas-disinfo-musk-twitter-x/)** > > Elon Musk recommended that users follow accounts that have promoted lies in the past. > Both were among the most important early spreaders of a false [claim](https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/05/22/pentagon-explosion-ai-image-hoax/?itid=lk_inline_manual_5)in May that there had been an explosion near the White House. The Dow Jones Industrial Average stock index briefly dropped 85 points before that story was debunked. > > Emerson T. Brooking, a researcher at the Atlantic Council Digital Forensics Research Lab, posted that @sentdefender is an “absolutely poisonous account. regularly posting wrong and unverifiable things … inserting random editorialization and trying to juice its paid subscriber count.” > > The War Monitor account has argued with others over Israel and religion, [posting](https://x.com/WarMonitors/status/1587250122441867264?s=20)a year ago that “the overwhelming majority of people in the media and banks are zionists” and [telling](https://x.com/WarMonitors/status/1670547142920765440?s=20)a correspondent in June to “go worship a jew lil bro.” ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7063 "2023-10-09T02:35:37Z")
I kind of liked his use of the expression “go worship a jew”. Isn’t that kind of the point of Christianity? ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7064 "2023-10-09T03:31:42Z")
Now that you mention it … ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7065 "2023-10-09T03:33:51Z")
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