# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7066 "2023-10-09T08:19:17Z")

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I know the blue check doesn’t mean diddly squat anymore, but I seem to recall a tweeter with a similar name doing good reporting on Ukraine. I hope it’s just my failing memory because I hate to think I’ve liked tweets by this person.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7067 "2023-10-09T09:08:11Z")

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That’s [WarMonitor3](https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3) that is the pro-Ukraine account, not WarMonitors.

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**Author:** ![Chelonaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9a140/32.png) [@Chelonaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chelonaut)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7068 "2023-10-09T09:10:03Z")

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That’s @Warmonitor3, though I’ve heard comments that while his intentions are good, his tweets both hits and misses.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7069 "2023-10-09T09:26:02Z")

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Thank you both. I am glad it’s not the same account.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7070 "2023-10-09T09:26:55Z")

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I believe he has sources on the ground in the Ukrainian military, so he’s able to report military actions early and in fine detail. I regard him as a pretty good source, on the whole, and have great respect for the hours he puts into his work.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2023, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7071 "2023-10-09T09:32:41Z")

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It’s the Community Note that really makes that tweet work.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7072 "2023-10-10T01:51:26Z")

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Elmo: stop being so weird about slavery, you guys, all the cool civilizations were doing it.

[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8ByT_PWQAE_wXE.jpg) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8ByT_PWQAE_wXE.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7073 "2023-10-10T02:27:25Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I kind of liked his use of the expression “go worship a jew”. Isn’t that kind of the point of Christianity?

🤣😂😅 holy shit this is why we need a like button

Eta: oh he claims that’s what he actually meant? …weird insult…

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7074 "2023-10-10T03:23:32Z")

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Only in the last century it was made rare? Hmm guess that means the US wasn’t one of the last nations to outlaw slavery after the US Civil War was fought in 1923. Tracks for me!

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**Author:** ![Toxylon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f05b48/32.png) [@Toxylon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxylon)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7075 "2023-10-10T04:42:04Z")

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Elmo doesn’t know history. “Since humans existed” is utter bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7076 "2023-10-10T05:14:12Z")

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Elon Musk is pretty stupid about most things. He just has a really big platform that lets him demonstrate that to the world on a regular basis.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7077 "2023-10-10T06:16:27Z")

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Is this supposed to mean that, 'because we’ve, “always done it.” that it’s ok? If not what the hell point is he trying to make?

Honestly, I think most people are probably a bit more tuned into history than this bozo. You have to be a pretty pathetic person to be a slavery apologist. Grrr

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7078 "2023-10-10T06:54:03Z")

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> [@Dissonance](#):
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> Hmm guess that means the US wasn’t one of the last nations to outlaw slavery after the US Civil War was fought in 1923.

I get the impression that if you asked Elmo when slavery was abolished, he’d say 1993.

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**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7079 "2023-10-10T06:59:46Z")

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Considering his attitude toward his employees, I think he would mentally add “unfortunately” to that answer.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7080 "2023-10-10T07:39:09Z")

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And now, an ongoing Twitter thread about how misinformation and hoaxes relating to the Gaza War are being allowed to go unchecked under Elmo’s watch;

> <https://twitter.com/Shayan86/status/1710707264988868848>

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7081 "2023-10-10T11:46:04Z")

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Legal slavery is long dead. Illegal slavery is still a reasonably big business today.

I’ve no doubt Musk personally knows somebody who has a few.

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**Author:** ![leahcim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@leahcim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leahcim)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7082 "2023-10-10T12:28:17Z")

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> [@Sylvanz](#):
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> Is this supposed to mean that, 'because we’ve, “always done it.” that it’s ok? If not what the hell point is he trying to make?

Elon (and a lot of his acolytes) have a grade three schoolyard sense of morality. There is no “good” and “bad” – just “who’s getting chewed out by teacher” and who isn’t. And it’s not _fair_ that teacher is chewing out Americans for having slavery when they aren’t also chewing out the 16th century Ottomans.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7083 "2023-10-10T12:51:00Z")

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> [@Toxylon](#):
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> Elmo doesn’t know history. “Since humans existed” is utter bullshit.

> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Legal slavery is long dead. Illegal slavery is still a reasonably big business today.

If illegal, non-chattel slavery counts as slavery, then the informal thrall-like slavery backed only by threats of violence that I’m sure has existed since humans existed also counts. Chattel slavery may also have existed since trade has existed, which is a pretty darn long time, but I don’t know if there is evidence for that or not.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7084 "2023-10-10T14:22:19Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Legal slavery is long dead. Illegal slavery is still a reasonably big business today.
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> I’ve no doubt Musk personally knows somebody who has a few.

North Korea exports between 100,000 and 200,000 slaves each year, citizens forced to work hard labor jobs in foreign countries with their paychecks going to North Korea.

One of the sad ironies is that “export slave” is among the best jobs in NK, they are generally better fed and receive better medical care than the average NK citizen, their lives aren’t as regimented and they even have opportunities for side work. North Koreans bribe government officials for these jobs.

> **[How North Korea uses slaves to get around trade sanctions](https://www.businessinsider.com/how-north-korea-uses-slaves-to-get-around-trade-sanctions-2017-7)**
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> Despite trade sanctions, North Korea profits by sending slave labor as far as the European Union.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2023, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7085 "2023-10-10T14:27:32Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> One of the sad ironies is that “export slave” is among the best jobs in NK, they are generally better fed and receive better medical care than the average NK citizen, their lives aren’t as regimented and they even have opportunities for side work. North Koreans bribe government officials for these jobs.

I thought NK’s MO was to convince the citizens that the rest of the world was an even more desolate hell hole and that they were lucky to be in North Korea. What happens when these workers see the putside world and realize how shitty their own living conditions are in comparison?

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