# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7466 "2023-11-03T18:32:28Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> So electric cars are not a lot quieter than gas-powered cars, at least when driven at higher speeds.

Yes, as above, they are only noticeably quiet at low speeds.

There’s a different concern at higher speeds - there’s not enough engine noise so motorists notice the tire noise more and the design of quieter - potentially more expensive, at least at first - tires is a potential issue

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**Author:** ![leahcim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@leahcim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leahcim)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7467 "2023-11-03T18:34:49Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> > [@Folly](#):
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> > I want the Jetson’s car noise
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> I want the William Tell Overture. Or possibly the Theme from Shaft.

There was a whole podracer scene in Star Wars Episode 1 with lots of potentially licensable noises.

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7468 "2023-11-03T21:09:30Z")

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> [@Sylvanz](#):
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> How will these little people survive without blowing noise and smoke all over for the attention.

I’m tempted to make my fortune by selling a “Rolling Coal” kit for electric pickups (I could throw in confederate flags where the stars are little lightning bolts… and light-up trailer hitch nuts… for free with the premium package).

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7469 "2023-11-03T21:15:50Z")

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I believe the EV version of rolling coal would be a Tesla coil that zaps the wimpy car next to you.

[![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4a/OneTeslaTS_DRSSTC_Tesla_Coil_closeup.jpg/220px-OneTeslaTS_DRSSTC_Tesla_Coil_closeup.jpg) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4a/OneTeslaTS_DRSSTC_Tesla_Coil_closeup.jpg/220px-OneTeslaTS_DRSSTC_Tesla_Coil_closeup.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7470 "2023-11-03T21:37:52Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> Regarding car sound, recently I was surprised to learn something on that topic from listening to a conservationist being interviewed on Hawai’i public radio. He was asked whether electric cars would increase road kill of endangered species because they are quieter and animals don’t get the same warning. The scientist said that most highway car noise does not come from the engine, but from the wheels, as tires create temporary vacuum seals over tiny pits in the road that pop when the seal is released. So electric cars are not a lot quieter than gas-powered cars, at least when driven at higher speeds

When the Prius first came out, a friend bought one. She said the danger area were places like gas stations and parking lots, when the car was moving slowly enough not to generate much road noise. She said she’d had pedestrians nearly walk into her hood, not noticing the car.

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7471 "2023-11-03T21:45:28Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> They were aggressive both in the physical sense of entitlement to own the road and all rights of way while ignoring all traffic laws

I ride primarily in states that use some form of the [Idaho stop](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_stop) so I can legally act like I own the road! Bwa ha ha ha!

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7472 "2023-11-03T21:52:44Z")

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Excellent user name-post combination!

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**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7473 "2023-11-03T22:19:54Z")

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> [@gnoitall](#):
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> The only way your explanation makes sense is that either (a) the vehicle has never been driven before by anyone, or (b) Tesla chose inexperienced test drivers for their new showcase vehicle’s first road test because…reasons? (Possibly reasons associated with ketamine abuse.)

most likely … (c) … driver has near zero visibility on whats ahead of him, and only sees the sky in the incline - and hence has to drive “by memory”

any truck should not have mayor problems here - the underground is dry and very grippy … the problem is the suspension doesnt seem to be flexy at all … so the Camry remark uprthread is not too far off

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7474 "2023-11-03T22:20:09Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> She said she’d had pedestrians nearly walk into her hood, not noticing the car.

This was very true in the early days.

They were mandated in Japan before the US but still only around 10-12 years ago, so the very early Prius models did not have them.

And even after, the sound they generated wasn’t like engine noise, so early on, some people were still not careful to avoid running into a large hunk of metal with a lot of momentum behind it, noisemaker or no

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2023, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7475 "2023-11-03T22:33:35Z")

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> [@Al128](#):
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> most likely … (c) … driver has near zero visibility on whats ahead of him, and only sees the sky in the incline - and hence has to drive “by memory”

I’d consider this plausible, but…

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I had the exact same thought. When the truck (I think I can call it a truck) got to a flatter grade of road, the driver continued driving hesitantly. So I strongly suspect it was a driver struggling, and not the vehicle itself.

Which was in itself a response to my post trying to figure out if it was the vehicle, the driver (skill or unfamiliarity with the vehicle), or just terrified of doing damage to the bullet (low velocity) and arrow-proof vehicle. Or a combination of all of the above.

So yeah, the video isn’t winning many hearts and minds, but there is multitude of possible issues involved.

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**Author:** ![yendis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ed8c4c/32.png) [@yendis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yendis)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2023, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7476 "2023-11-04T05:06:25Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> So yeah, the video isn’t winning many hearts and minds, but there is multitude of possible issues involved.

That’s what Neuralink is for.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7477 "2023-11-05T09:16:25Z")

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Remember when Elmo was going on about how AI was going to destroy mankind in like a couple of years?

> <https://twitter.com/xai/status/1721027348970238035>

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7478 "2023-11-05T09:44:45Z")

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Interesting that xAI doesn’t say anything about it being a Musk thing, let alone connect itself with X/Twitter.

Had the OP not mentioned it, I would have just thought it was some random GPT-based startup with a new gimmick.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7479 "2023-11-05T09:47:14Z")

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The griping about people who can’t take a joke, bragging that it’ll answer questions GPT won’t, and referencing two sci-fi novels that have nothing to with each other, in a way that shows no understanding of either?

That’s got Elmo’s fingerprints _all_ over it.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7480 "2023-11-05T11:08:27Z")

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xAI is absolutely Elmo’s creation. Not only that, Elmo stole employees from Google DeepMind, OpenAI, Google Research, and Microsoft Research to build it.

> **[Elon Musk says his new startup xAI will debut its artificial intelligence...](https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/03/elon-musk-says-his-new-startup-xai-will-debut-tech-for-the-first-time.html)**
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> Elon Musk said Friday that his AI company, xAI, will debut its technology on Saturday.

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> [@Dissonance](#):
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> You can’t be this stupid. There’s nothing at all silly about pointing out just how stupid these pathetic attempts at ‘viral ad stunts’ are.

Narrator: He is.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7482 "2023-11-05T11:59:34Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Remember when Elmo was going on about how AI was going to destroy mankind in like a couple of years?
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> [x.com](https://twitter.com/xai/status/1721027348970238035)

Grok? That’s not THHGTTG; that’s Stranger in a Strange Land. He should be calling it HoopyFrood.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7483 "2023-11-05T12:00:56Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Grok? That’s not THHGTTG; that’s Stranger in a Strange Land.

I assume he’s never read the former, and he only skimmed the latter looking for the sex scenes.

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The only thing more cost-effective than Bulgarian or Pakistani nihilist spam-trolls all over social media is AI nihilist spam-trolls all over social media. If Elmo want to hasten the day civilization collapses, he’s off to a good start.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2023, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7485 "2023-11-05T14:23:24Z")

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How else is he supposed to sell tickets to Mars on a rocket that won’t get there?

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