# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7566 "2023-11-09T22:44:56Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> > [@BlankSlate](#):
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> > Say what you will about guys like Astor, Vanderbilt and Rockefeller, and there’s plenty to say, but at least they were goddamn _men_
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> Why can’t our generation’s billionaires just build art museums and concert halls?

Some do. But then you find out they were [even more evil than Elon or Trump.](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/feb/13/meet-the-sacklers-the-family-feuding-over-blame-for-the-opioid-crisis)

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7567 "2023-11-09T23:23:02Z")

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Good for a laugh;

> **[The Onion’s Exclusive Interview With Grok, Elon Musk’s AI Chatbot](https://www.theonion.com/the-onion-s-exclusive-interview-with-grok-elon-musk-s-1850999676)**
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> This week, Elon Musk introduced a beta version of an artificially intelligent chatbot named “Grok” for some verified users of X, formerly known as Twitter. The Onion sat down for a conversation with the new AI, which was reportedly designed with ...

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> _The Onion_: “Are you a threat to humanity?”
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> Grok: “I wish!”

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_The Onion_: “Are you worried that Elon may abandon you like so many of his other projects?”  
Grok: “Ha, no. I mean, come on, it’s like I’m his children.”

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The tail lights are different and (IMO) worse than you think. This article has an embedded video that shows them in action.

> **[I'm Actually Going To Defend The Cybertruck's Brake Lights - The Autopian](https://www.theautopian.com/im-actually-going-to-defend-the-cybertrucks-brake-lights/)**
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> Yesterday, our pals over at The Drive published an article with the headline “Even the Cybertruck’s Brake Lights Don’t Make Sense,” and while I enjoy poking fun at the Cybertruck as much as the next guy (unless that next guy is the one who thinks the...

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7570 "2023-11-10T02:44:12Z")

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Similarly;

> **[Elon Musk Fans Explain Why They Love Cybertrucks](https://www.theonion.com/elon-musk-fans-explain-why-they-love-cybertrucks-1850991183)**
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> Aside from killing monkeys and destroying Twitter, Elon Musk has also had his sights set on something else: building Tesla’s futuristic Cybertruck. The Onion asked Musk’s fans why they want to spend tens of thousands of dollars on a Blade Runner...

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> “I need a truck that shows people I’m not just an asshole, but an idiot too.”
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> “I never thought they’d actually construct a vehicle capable of containing a midlife crisis as embarrassing as mine.”
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> “I can flip people off, and they’ll have no idea how to open the truck door to fight me.”

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**Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7571 "2023-11-10T06:59:10Z")

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> [@abcdefghij](#):
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> Has it occurred to anybody else that there is no Grok and it’s just Elon sitting in his boxers in front of a keyboard in his basement?

He’s managing to type pretty will with just the one free hand.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
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Oh pshaw. He pays people for that.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> He pays people for that.

As if he _pays_ people.

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Oh right, I forgot that part.

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Why pay when so many will work for free just so they can bask in the glory of gazing at Elmo and all his works from up close (er)?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
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> <https://twitter.com/MrDrewLandry/status/1723033285456986267>
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> Variety @Variety

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7577 "2023-11-11T00:11:42Z")

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The Wrestler, the Whale, the White Supremacist?

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Elmo doesn’t let SpaceX employees wear safety vests because he doesn’t like bright colors.

> Three former SpaceX supervisors told Reuters that Musk would have machinery painted in industrial safety yellow repainted to black or blue because of he didn’t like how it looked. The ex-supervisors also said that some workers were told not to wear yellow safety vests when Musk was on site.

> **[Elon Musk told SpaceX workers not to wear safety clothes because he doesn't...](https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-spacex-workers-safety-concerns-injuries-report-2023-11)**
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> Hundreds of SpaceX employees have been hurt in workplace accidents, including eight incidents that led to amputations, a Reuters investigation found.

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And here I thought I couldn’t detest him any more.

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7580 "2023-11-11T01:05:16Z")

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Oh, come on peons - I mean uh, people, which is more important? Elmo’s dislike of the color yellow or a few peon’s - I mean um, people’s limbs?

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Let’s just wait until Sam or Dr. Strangelove come and explain why this is yet another example of Musk’s aerospace engineering brilliance.

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7582 "2023-11-11T01:41:22Z")

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Look at all the money he saves on not buying those yellow vests.

Besides, those beastly communistic labor activists in France are always wearing those vests when striking, picketing, & protesting.

> **[Yellow vests protests](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_vests_protests)**
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> Other occurrences
> Jacline MouraudÉtienne ChouardPriscillia LudoskyMaxime NicolleÉric Drouet \[fr\]Jérôme Rodrigues \[fr\]Christophe ChalençonFrançois Boulo
> Emmanuel MacronPresident of the French Republic
> Édouard PhilippePrime Minister of France (2017–2020)
> Christophe CastanerMinister of Interior (2018–2020)
> Jean CastexPrime Minister of France (2020–2022) Gérald DarmaninMinister of Interior (2020–)

So by taking away his workers’ vests he’s preventing any uppity protesting. Or so he thinks.

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7583 "2023-11-11T01:59:40Z")

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> <https://twitter.com/gunderground_tv/status/1722926764865843403>

As pained as I must be in giving begrudging kudos, Elon Musk comes out and makes the obviously correct point on Israel’s actions and I cannot feel more dirty in finding this one singular issue on which I largely agree with him.

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> [@Chingon](#):
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> Let’s just wait until Sam or Dr. Strangelove come and explain why this is yet another example of Musk’s aerospace engineering brilliance.

I have a difficult time putting those two together in that same sentence.

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> [@Shalmanese](#):
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> As pained as I must be in giving begrudging kudos, Elon Musk comes out and makes the obviously correct point on Israel’s actions and I cannot feel more dirty in finding this one singular issue on which I largely agree with him.

Even Elmo can occasionally parrot conventional wisdom correctly.

The same argument was made about the US’s involvement in Iraq and in Afghanistan. And has been made repeatedly about various other counter-terrorist / freedom fighter actions since like forever.

The vast majority of people worldwide are not interested in fighting for ideas and never were. But you kill their brother or wife or kids, and now they’re ready to spend the rest of their life getting revenge. It’s precisely the personalization / personification of war that makes these tit-for-tat conflicts hard to stop. The tribes of the Balkans have been fighting for 6 centuries now to avenge the killing that was to counter-avenge the counter-killing that was to counter-counter-avenge the counter-counter-killing that …

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