# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 382
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7626 "2023-11-14T15:34:12Z")
And this is all he’ll say about it: > “I don’t want to judge the Cybertruck as beautiful or ugly. It certainly has its admirers who want a vehicle to stand out,” Giugiaro told NPR. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7627 "2023-11-14T15:39:44Z")
Maybe it will be like the the original Hummer. The original one that hit the street was like a military Hummer. I don’t think people bought it because it was aesthetically pleasing to look at or was comfortable to drive. Rather, I suspect it was more of a status symbol of having a unique and expensive car to show up in at luxury events. The Cybertruck seems the same way to me. People will buy one because they want to be noticed rather than because of inherent qualities of the truck itself. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7628 "2023-11-14T15:46:30Z")
I’m pretty sure that’s the target demograhic. But we got the more conventional H2 and H3 because most people actually did want comfort and aesthetic appeal. Building a vehicle specifically for a niche market and expect it will take over the world? Sounds like a winner 👍 😀 👍 ---
**Author:** ![epbrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@epbrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7629 "2023-11-14T15:56:25Z")
This has been BMW’s design philosophy for twenty years: it doesn’t matter if you think the design is ugly as long as it gets noticed. Gradually, people get used to it and they ramp things up again. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7630 "2023-11-14T16:24:58Z")
> [@tofor](#): > > A coworker posted this image in our chat and said it gives him chills. It just occurred to me that the Cybertruck is what might happen if you were able to pull a truck from the original _Tron_ film into the real world. Yes, a vehicle designed using an early 80s Atari. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7631 "2023-11-14T16:31:36Z")
Anybody remember the Big Trak from the early 80s? You could program it to move forward x steps, turn y degrees, and fire its little “laser”. I’m guessing it was Elon’s favorite toy. [![](https://static.wixstatic.com/media/21167d_fbd744814f104cfea4d69d55a4b06498~mv2.png/v1/fit/w_1000%2Ch_650%2Cal_c%2Cq_80,enc_auto/file.jpg) ](https://static.wixstatic.com/media/21167d_fbd744814f104cfea4d69d55a4b06498~mv2.png/v1/fit/w_1000%2Ch_650%2Cal_c%2Cq_80,enc_auto/file.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7632 "2023-11-14T16:32:40Z")
'77. > **[Landmaster](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landmaster)** > > The Landmaster is a unique 12-wheeled amphibious articulated vehicle constructed by Dean Jeffries at Jeffries Automotive in Universal City, California, for the 1977 science fiction film Damnation Alley (itself based on a novel by Roger Zelazny). Despite the appearance of two Landmasters in the film (achieved with process photography and models), only one was built, at a cost of $350,000 in 1976. > A staple of southern California car culture for many years, the Landmaster was parked in full view ne... [![](https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/the-landmaster-12-wheel-amphibious-articulated-rig-hollywoods-most-functional-prop-209149_1.jpg) ](https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/the-landmaster-12-wheel-amphibious-articulated-rig-hollywoods-most-functional-prop-209149_1.jpg) Perfect for the coming AI apocalypse. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7633 "2023-11-14T16:35:53Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > Anybody remember the Big Trak from the early 80s? That looks so much better than a Cybertruck. If that was a real vehicle I would love to take that thing off-roading. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7634 "2023-11-14T17:59:03Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > Anybody remember the Big Trak from the early 80s? I don’t remember or even recognize the name, but I had that toy from the picture as a kid. Endless hours of fun. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7635 "2023-11-14T19:01:51Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > That looks so much better than a Cybertruck. If that was a real vehicle I would love to take that thing off-roading. Totally real and totally drivable. Read the article. But built as a movie prop, so not really drivable much. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7636 "2023-11-14T19:14:33Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > Apparently, if he convinces someone to test-drive a Tesla, he will get $275 off his Cybertruck purchase, or some such thing. $275 off a $100K purchase price? They could at least offer a $1k reward. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7637 "2023-11-14T19:25:02Z")
I thought the Delorean looked fine when it was new. A bit high in the nose, but otherwise fine. At least it’s not a Bricklin, the car that looks like a Hot Wheels swallowing an 8 track tape. [![](https://www.carscoops.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Bricklin-SV-1-Main.jpg) ](https://www.carscoops.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Bricklin-SV-1-Main.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7638 "2023-11-14T19:31:13Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > $275 off a $100K purchase price? They could at least offer a $1k reward. Mind you, this figure may not be correct - who knows, maybe it is $2750. However, while I agree with you that the amount is ridiculously trivial in light of the cost of a Cybertruck, that’s the rational part of my brain kicking in. I’m not sure rationality is a big part of the decision-making process for people who can’t wait to buy a Cybertruck. But they might feel happy if they were getting a discount, without really analyzing its relative value. (Besides, HE doesn’t have to do anything; WE’RE the ones that have to do a test-drive.) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7639 "2023-11-14T19:33:18Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Totally real and totally drivable. The Big Trak?! [![](https://static.wixstatic.com/media/21167d_fbd744814f104cfea4d69d55a4b06498~mv2.png/v1/fit/w_1000%2Ch_650%2Cal_c%2Cq_80,enc_auto/file.jpg) ](https://static.wixstatic.com/media/21167d_fbd744814f104cfea4d69d55a4b06498~mv2.png/v1/fit/w_1000%2Ch_650%2Cal_c%2Cq_80,enc_auto/file.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7640 "2023-11-14T19:37:26Z")
Its a 275 dollar reward for proselytizing the good word of the cybertruck, something most of them would probably do for free. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7641 "2023-11-14T19:42:47Z")
> [@filmore](#): > > The Cybertruck seems the same way to me. People will buy one because they want to be noticed rather than because of inherent qualities of the truck itself. So, you’re saying Cybertruck buyers will mostly be rich assholes who are so insecure and/or narcissistic that they’re constantly obsessed with calling attention to themselves? Sounds plausible to me! Anyone who needs a pickup and wants an EV has various options that don’t make him look like a fool, like the Ford Lightning or Rivian. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7642 "2023-11-14T20:04:37Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > > [@LSLGuy](#): > > > > Totally real and totally drivable. > > The Big Trak?! [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/067ZRcsrdeM/maxresdefault.jpg "Mr Burns: Hop in!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=067ZRcsrdeM) ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7643 "2023-11-14T21:34:46Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > > [@LSLGuy](#): > > > > Totally real and totally drivable. > > The Big Trak?! Crap. Your post was directly below the Landmaster pic & I just … D’oh! Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2023, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7644 "2023-11-14T21:54:34Z")
We’ve been over the Landmaster previously! > [@Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition/963442/2734): > > Or the [Landmaster](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landmaster#:~:text=The%20Landmaster%20is%20a%20unique,science%20fiction%20film%20Damnation%20Alley.)[[image] ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8e/Landmaster.jpg) But what I said back in January 2023 remains the same for me and my evaluation of Musk. > [@Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition/963442/2730): > > I’m basically younger than Musk by 2 years. I find that if I had abandoned growing up mentally and socially at the age above (when I was 12, Musk would have been 14 - see, not a randomly chosen age range above) then lots of the stuff Musk thinks/does makes sense. High tech boondoggles that sound good but ignore the practicalities? Check! Super angular brushed metal vehicle that looks tough (for Mad Maxing) regardless of efficacy? Check! Rockets and space travel? Triple check! Making ever… ---
**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7645 "2023-11-15T00:53:29Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > $275 off a $100K purchase price? They could at least offer a $1k reward. $275 just to test drive a truck is a lot of money. If you could convince 360 strangers to spend an hour pretending to be interested in a cybertruck for $50 each, you’ve just gotten a cybertruck for $18K. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=381) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=383)