# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 398
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7946 "2023-12-01T20:33:59Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > aftermarket coal rolling add-on for Cybertrucks Maybe it’s like a vaping unit, since it’s all-electric. You can have different flavors of “coal” you insert. …I started that out as a joke and now I think that people might actually buy that shit. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7947 "2023-12-01T20:47:03Z")
They absolutely would. I bet you could offer different colors and odors and you’d basically have a license to print money ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7948 "2023-12-01T21:05:33Z")
Good old American ingenuity. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7949 "2023-12-01T21:07:42Z")
oh no way anyone saw this coming > **[Tesla Cybertruck Event Flops (NASDAQ:TSLA)](https://seekingalpha.com/article/4655390-tesla-cybertruck-event-flops)** > > Tesla, Inc.'s highly anticipated Cybertruck delivery event was a disappointment, with higher pricing and lower range than expected. Explore more details here. > I am reiterating my sell rating on shares of Tesla today for a couple of reasons. First, the Cybertruck reveal was a big disappointment, with much higher than expected pricing and range being a lot less than originally projected. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7950 "2023-12-01T21:22:14Z")
> [@](#): > > Tesla shares currently trade at roughly 60 times expected earnings, a significant premium to pay compared to traditional automakers that trade in the single digits. I don’t always agree with articles on Seeking Alpha; however, this part of the article is worth pointing out. Tesla is not trading like a vehicle company. It is trading like a tech company, and it is increasingly obvious that Tesla’s tech is not progressing well. If Tesla stock collapses, the fall is going to be _hard_. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7951 "2023-12-01T21:23:01Z")
Oooo!! I want mine in the CyberBeast model with the optional range extender! What’s this optional range extender you say? Extra range on my electric truck that’s no doubt both cheap and won’t have any effect on its utility as a truck, right? Right? > For those curious, Elon Musk later tweeted about the range extender, saying that it is an “optional pack that fits in about 1/3 of the truck bed.” The extender is expected to cost $16,000, and will require a visit to a service center for installation, with [production planned](https://twitter.com/WholeMarsBlog/status/1730397721725423852) to begin late in 2024. Given the size of a battery pack needed to add that kind of range to the truck, it’s likely to reduce the potential payload by at least a few hundred pounds. Psshaw, what’s $16,000 more on a $99,000 ‘truck’? And it only takes up 1/3 of the truck bed! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7952 "2023-12-01T21:33:15Z")
I don’t think I knew the deposit for a cybertruck is only a hundred bucks, and a **refundable** hundred bucks at that. How is a company supposed to gauge legitimate interest with that kind of commitment level? ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7953 "2023-12-01T22:33:30Z")
I doubt that was the question they were asking themselves when they made the deposit $100 on a $99,000 vehicle and made it refundable to boot. I think the question they were asking themselves was how we can get the maximum number of pre-orders possible in order to create the greatest possible false impression that this is going to be a highly desired product. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7954 "2023-12-01T22:42:37Z")
[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAS1qH0XUAA0-iu?format=jpg&name=medium) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAS1qH0XUAA0-iu?format=jpg&name=medium) Gee, Elmo, I wonder why indeed? It COULDN’T possibly be because you told them to fuck themselves on national television, right? [![](https://i.imgflip.com/87yacv.jpg) ](https://i.imgflip.com/87yacv.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7955 "2023-12-01T22:47:51Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I’ve become a Chevy fan. Did you EVER think you’d say this? We bought our first car during the Big Suckage of the Big Three, and we bought a Toyota. Lasted through the '80s and '90s, long after we were bored with it (but it just wouldn’t die). I loved to trash-talk Lazy American Car Companies back then. But now I may buy a used Volt, with my wife getting a Bolt (or its future version) further down the line. I was excited about the Tesla at first … and if Elmo had kept his trap shut and just tried to make the best electric car, I might have bought one by now. After getting to know him, no way. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7956 "2023-12-01T22:53:44Z")
> [@Treppenwitz](#): > > My EV plans were basically to watch the charging networks mature and vehicle ranges increase, and in the next year or two buy a Tesla. Now I wouldn’t touch one with a shitty stick - there are plenty of non-Musk alternatives out there. Same here, though partly it was a matter of pragmatic calculation that we’d be better off with a plug-in hybrid that allows us to do 95% of our driving on battery while still being sure of having the range to visit relatives in Darkest Pennsyltucky. > [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > My stepson isn’t an asshole, he just bought his Tesla before things got so crazy. Maybe a disclaimer bumper sticker (“I Bought It Before I Knew Elon Was An Asshole”)? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7957 "2023-12-01T22:55:54Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Did you EVER think you’d say this? We bought our first car during the Big Suckage of the Big Three, and we bought a Toyota. Lasted through the '80s and '90s, long after we were bored with it (but it just wouldn’t die). Holy shit, are you me?! 😆 My first new car was a Toyota and I had it for 17 largely problem-free years. The only reason I didn’t get another Toyota is because I was looking for a compact car with a ridiculous turning radius to make it easy to park and maneuver. The best car for that was a Smart Fortwo but I didn’t want to drive a roller skate that runs on Duracell (honestly that’s what it looks like to me). The second best was a Chevy Spark. I test drove one and fell in love. The price was also hard to beat. Otherwise I had zero interest in Chevy. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7958 "2023-12-01T22:57:05Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Holy shit, are you me?! 😆 Quite the ego boost, thanks! By the way, I didn’t swipe my “If he’d just kept his mouth shut” comment from the disappointing Cybertruck launch, but I just read one commenter’s take: > Musk was worshipped by so many as a real life Tony Stark. If he would have just kept his mouth shut instead of trying to be a teen edge-lord he could have perpetuated that legend by just letting his engineers do it for him. Instead he has squandered everything. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7959 "2023-12-01T23:00:49Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Gee, Elmo, I wonder why indeed? It COULDN’T possibly be because you told them to fuck themselves on national television, right? To be fair, perhaps when he said “go fuck yourselves” he was wishing that they might partake of the same pleasurable sensations he felt while pulling those statistics out of his ass. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2023, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7960 "2023-12-01T23:55:42Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I’ll be replacing my LEAF at some point (serving me very well at the moment) and Tesla _used to be_ one of my top picks. Now I would not touch one with **your** shitty stick. Likewise. For me it’s simply that I refuse to own anything that is so closely associated with Elmo. It’s aggravated by the fact that he’s not just some wealthy shareholder of the company, but, as is Elmo’s wont, he constantly meddles in the design decisions. So every day I would have to look at some feature and think, “Elmo thought this was a good idea”. Even if I agreed that it was a good idea (and on many of Elmo’s design tweaks, I do _ **not** _ think this) the thought that I agreed with Elmo on something would be repulsive. And if the feature was actually stupid – as many of them are – I would be inclined to drive the car off a cliff. > [@Atamasama](#): > > My current car (which is only 6 years old) is a Chevy Spark. I really like it and the Chevy Bolt is now really attractive to me. I was drooling over Tesla cars for years but the Bolt is more practical and affordable and again, I’ve become a Chevy fan. When I feel ready to make the switch to electric, that’s probably where I’ll be leaning. My ideal would be in the electric SUV category, but I’m with you on the Chevy brand (many decades ago, incidentally, my beautiful new Chevrolet Caprice was the best car I ever owned). For my next car I have my eye on the Chevy Equinox EV. > [@gnoitall](#): > > The only way I could see this working out is if someone comes up with an aftermarket coal rolling add-on for Cybertrucks. It would work best as an add-on that burned actual coal. I have a concept for Elmo’s consideration that I’m sure he would approve: [![](https://i.imgur.com/4qfckVe.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/4qfckVe.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7961 "2023-12-02T00:54:26Z")
I gave a shot at the next generation. [![](https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIG.7omrw7fGGJ.s_qPZ4yr3?w=1024&h=1024&rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain) ](https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIG.7omrw7fGGJ.s_qPZ4yr3?w=1024&h=1024&rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain) ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7962 "2023-12-02T01:41:22Z")
We’ve had 3 Chevy Cavaliers. Those things kept running until the body practically fell off. I’m a Chevy fan. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7963 "2023-12-02T02:16:21Z")
But where would you stick the giant Confederate and Trump flags? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7964 "2023-12-02T02:18:04Z")
> [@Sylvanz](#): > > I’m a Chevy fan. A friend of mine always drives a Chevy pickup. She says that “Ford” stands for Fixed Or Repaired Daily. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/7965 "2023-12-02T02:19:51Z")
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