# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 403
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8046 "2023-12-07T17:23:59Z")
1600 posts since I last visited… X-Last, Indivisible’s proposal to address twitter’s decline, hasn’t been mentioned yet according to search. Apologies otherwise, emphasis added: > The X-last approach is a simple, low-risk approach anyone and any organization can take to step back from X and help build community on emerging safer and better platforms. **Adoption of the strategy means simply this: A commitment to posting to X-alternatives first, and posting to X, if at all, last.** You know, I might be able to do that. > **[xlast](https://www.xlast.org/)** > > Collective action to address X's hateful, dangerous direction and help strengthen better, more functional alternatives. Details: > [@](#): > > It’s not as powerful a statement, perhaps, as leaving the platform completely, but it robs X of its one-remaining selling point: that it remains the place for breaking news and following real-time events. > If news is breaking and analysis first comes from other platforms – and trusted > messengers are on those other platforms – audiences will follow. Gradually, the habit > of checking X first will be broken – and communities will develop in these better > spaces. > Step 1: Establish a presence on alternative text-based platforms. > Step 2: Post to those alternative platforms before posting on X > Step 3: Prioritize engagement - reposts, replies, etc. on those alternative > platforms. > Step 4: Closely monitor your metrics on those alternative platforms to > determine where to dedicate greater time and resources. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8047 "2023-12-07T17:45:19Z")
Tbh, I never really got into Twitter, but I did have an account, which I jettisoned last winter. I’m finding Threads to be quite fun. I guess I wasn’t enough of a user to know what it’s lacking from Twitter, but I like the interface and it’s pretty intuitive for me. Then again, I do know Instagram. I finally got a Blue Sky account last week, and it just seemed clunky compared with Threads, just like how I found Mastodon. So Threads it is for me and there’s no way in hell I’m signing up to Twitter for the foreseeable future. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8048 "2023-12-07T19:22:16Z")
Somebody call the wambulance! [https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/07/business/elon-musk-demands-bob-iger-be-fired-after-disney-pulled-ads-from-x/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/07/business/elon-musk-demands-bob-iger-be-fired-after-disney-pulled-ads-from-x/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Mr.E](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.e/32/8932_2.png) [@Mr.E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.E)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8049 "2023-12-07T19:33:24Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Behind the lawsuit for fair compensation is a lot of eye-opening information about how Musk and his goons took a big dump on the whole notion of regulatory compliance. > > Zero chance this goes to trial. Musk will settle because he won’t want the public revelations that come with evidence gathering and testimony. The favorite thing I read about this lawsuit is there was an arbitration clause and in fact the former employee tried to go through the arbitration process. Twitter never paid its side of the arbitration fee, so now it’s in court anyway. Presumably whoever it was in charge of paying for arbitration got sacked themselves. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8050 "2023-12-07T19:41:11Z")
He seems to think he is legally entitled to advertisers. It’s a real head-scratcher. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8051 "2023-12-07T19:56:06Z")
Meanwhile in Scandinavia Elmo cannot send a parcel, let alone ship parts or cars. Cannot service charging stations. Tesla is effectively shut down. It looks like he thinks he can outlast the unions. — that is one bet I would happily take: Elmo is going to fold the second the first shareholder complains. The Scandinavian unions can do this until the cows come home. ---
**Author:** ![Mikkel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikkel/32/13151_2.png) [@Mikkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikkel)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8052 "2023-12-07T20:28:46Z")
> [@The\_Librarian](#): > > Meanwhile in Scandinavia Only in Sweden at the moment. Sure, the Danish, Norwegian and Finnish unions are in it too, but only by blocking anything send to Tesla in Sweden. If you want a Tesla in Denmark it is quite possible at the moment. Should Musk do something stupid, it can change fast. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8053 "2023-12-07T20:50:07Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > He seems to think he is legally entitled to advertisers. It’s a real head-scratcher. They’re interfering with his free speech! He’s a free speech absolutist, how dare they decide to advertise or not based upon what he said! I’m pretty sure it violates the constitution or something. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8054 "2023-12-07T20:55:34Z")
Say, isn’t there a citizenship test? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8055 "2023-12-07T22:04:22Z")
[This article](https://www.theregister.com/2023/12/07/swedish_tesla_strike_international/?td=rt-3a)seems to claim all transport of everything Tesla in Denmark will be affected. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8056 "2023-12-07T22:39:58Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > I’m sure defying orders for discovery and process wouldn’t be beyond his legal skillset. Hell, the last time Elmo had to go through discovery, he bought Twitter to get out of it. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8057 "2023-12-07T22:46:20Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > He seems to think he is legally entitled to advertisers. It’s a real head-scratcher. Right? He just seems like he’s never been denied anything he wants, until recently. Meanwhile, and I’m not going to link to this, people have started attaching community notes to some of those pervasive ads: > Be cautious if purchasing from this store as it is part of an Al generated network of stores selling dropshipped products. The products may be overpriced, unfit for purpose and/or may not be shipped at all. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8058 "2023-12-07T22:50:48Z")
In that interview with Andrew that I watched, Elon bragged about how he goes along with about 97% of the rules and regulations regarding business permits and the like. He seemed to think that was good enough and nobody should worry about all the ones he ignores. As if the substance of the ones he ignores shouldn’t matter. That’s not an exact quote of what he said, but it was certainly what he implied. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8059 "2023-12-07T23:04:26Z")
Officer, she was 17 years old! That’s 94% legal! What’s the issue? ---
**Author:** ![Mikkel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikkel/32/13151_2.png) [@Mikkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikkel)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8060 "2023-12-08T07:16:28Z")
Only transport to Sweden. [quote=]3F, which covers multiple industries in Denmark, has limited its sympathy strike to its Transportation arm, which union chair Jan Villadsen explained will mean transportation workers at docks, including drivers, won’t unload or transport Tesla vehicles bound for Sweden. [/quote] ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8061 "2023-12-08T07:22:05Z")
You are correct. Shall we try to predict how long it will take Elmo(“I disagree with the idea of Unions”) to pick a fight with ALL Scandinavian unions plus a few choice German ones? ---
**Author:** ![yendis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ed8c4c/32.png) [@yendis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yendis)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8062 "2023-12-08T08:09:25Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > Somebody call the wambulance! > > [https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/07/business/elon-musk-demands-bob-iger-be-fired-after-disney-pulled-ads-from-x/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/07/business/elon-musk-demands-bob-iger-be-fired-after-disney-pulled-ads-from-x/index.html) Imagine for a moment if Iger was as thin skinned and reactionary as Musk. He could destroy Musk with a snap of his fingers. Every Marvel villain, every incompetent sitcom boss, every negative anything in Disney controlled properties could be a Musk parody. And Musk would never recover. Or he can just direct his army of mouse-branded lawyers to annihilate X’s legal team, 2 interns and a very confused SpaceX engineer. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8063 "2023-12-08T08:35:13Z")
> [@yendis](#): > > He could destroy Musk with a snap of his fingers. He has the Infinity Gauntlet of Lawyers. ---
**Author:** ![Mikkel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikkel/32/13151_2.png) [@Mikkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikkel)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8064 "2023-12-08T09:50:00Z")
> [@The\_Librarian](#): > > Shall we try to predict how long it will take Elmo(“I disagree with the idea of Unions”) to pick a fight with ALL Scandinavian unions plus a few choice German ones? A few months I guess. If he don’t give in, the unions will find new ways to hurt him. Middle of February? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2023, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8065 "2023-12-08T11:07:54Z")
You mean Elmo will find new ways to punch his own balls? Elmo doesn’t need anyone else to hurt him. It is the one field where he really is outstanding. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=402) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=404)