# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 409
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8166 "2023-12-13T18:44:15Z")
> [@Capn\_Carl](#): > > Currently, Autosteer expects some driver attention. At least resting your hand on the wheel. If no indication of driver attention is detected for X seconds, there’s a warning tone and the car kicks you out of Autosteer and into normal cruise control. This sounds dangerous as hell! _“Hey! He’s not looking! Catch!”_ ---
**Author:** ![Capn\_Carl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Capn\_Carl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capn_Carl)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8167 "2023-12-13T20:56:52Z")
Yeah, I think for some people, it’s tempting to let the car handle as much of the driving duties as they can get away with. The new software rev seems to target those drivers. I prefer to have full control of the car, except when in light interstate traffic. Even then, I don’t trust the Autopilot much—I keep a hand resting on the wheel and a foot by the accelerator. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8168 "2023-12-13T21:06:38Z")
At least a bit of the blame has to go o Tesla for overhyping the capabilities of their self-driving. But an over-the-air-update is a pretty simple ‘recall’. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8169 "2023-12-13T21:39:43Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > But an over-the-air-update is a pretty simple ‘recall’. It probably is, and kudos to Tesla for having that capability. But the fact remains that almost every vehicle they’ve ever made needs to have a dangerous feature fixed. And this is directly attributable to the hype from the same psychopath who promised that he’d have a million settlers on Mars sometime around about now. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8170 "2023-12-13T21:40:12Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > This sounds dangerous as hell! Seriously. That’s like a gun having a feature where it shoots you if it detects you’re handling it with the safety off. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8171 "2023-12-13T21:52:31Z")
They should make the feature safer by having the car veer hard left if the driver is sleeping while autopiloting. ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8172 "2023-12-13T21:54:15Z")
The fact that Musk is in charge and they can do over the air updates is a very good reason to not buy a Tesla. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8173 "2023-12-13T22:11:02Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > It probably is, and kudos to Tesla for having that capability. But the fact remains that almost every vehicle they’ve ever made needs to have a dangerous feature fixed. And this is directly attributable to the hype from the same psychopath who promised that he’d have a million settlers on Mars sometime around about now. Is this different than any other car company? I have an outstanding recall for my Ford Escape, and it’s probably the fourth or fifth one I’ve had to deal with. Millions of cars were recalled for Tabata air bag issues. Tesla has more recalls per vehicle than any other car company, by quite a lot. But if they are calling every OTA update a ‘recall’, I’m not sure its a fair comparison. But it’s also possible that Tesla releases cars with more software defects than others precisely because it CAN fix problems at low cost. Whether or not that’s a good idea is another matter. ---
**Author:** ![abcdefghij](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/43a26b/32.png) [@abcdefghij](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/abcdefghij)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8174 "2023-12-13T22:26:30Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > But if they are calling every OTA update a ‘recall’, I’m not sure its a fair comparison. They’re not. Recall notices get issued by the US Department of Transportation. They don’t send them out for “Elon thinks your speedometer should be in Comic Sans now”. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8175 "2023-12-13T22:45:51Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > But it’s also possible that Tesla releases cars with more software defects than others precisely because it CAN fix problems at low cost. Whether or not that’s a good idea is another matter. Another matter? It’s the important matter that we’re discussing. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8176 "2023-12-13T22:53:49Z")
Elmo must be getting tired of his new toy, because now he wants to start his own uni. > **[Elon Musk plans to open a new university in Austin](https://www.texastribune.org/2023/12/13/elon-musk-austin-texas-university/)** > > The Tesla CEO and Texas resident’s charitable foundation filed an application to create the new school “dedicated to education at the highest levels.” ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8177 "2023-12-13T22:59:25Z")
Well, that’s one way to do things. Basically start a training program to supply his companies at lower wages while the ‘students’ pay for it ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8178 "2023-12-13T23:16:20Z")
He put 2.2 billion into that foundation in 2022, before his Twitter troubles started. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8179 "2023-12-13T23:30:43Z")
I hope Alex Jones and Andrew Tate aren’t going to be the head teachers. Elon seems to love them both so much. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8180 "2023-12-13T23:40:30Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Well, that’s one way to do things. Basically start a training program to supply his companies at lower wages while the ‘students’ pay for it That was my exact thought - I foresee lots of unpaid ‘internships’ with Tesla where students get ‘high value education and hands on experience’ while they’re still paying tuition to the school. Oh, and not to mention, any ideas that they come up with in school or during the ‘internship’ belong to Musk, not themselves. Okay, the last is true at most places, but this all seems to be an entirely selfish move. Considering Texas education policies and business friendly attitudes, I see it doing wonderfully - for Musk. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8181 "2023-12-13T23:43:17Z")
Yeah, for some reason I’m half expecting ElmoU to be something comparable to PragerU. I can see ‘Introduction to Fighting the Woke Mind Virus’ as a required class on the curriculum. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8182 "2023-12-13T23:53:14Z")
Right. I can’t decide if they will allow females or not. On the one hand, they want to rape and ogle them. But on the other hand, they want to force them to give birth every 9 1/2 months. Plus there’s all that housework to do and dinner to cook. Decisions decisions. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8183 "2023-12-14T01:56:11Z")
Your source got the abbreviation wrong. It’s NHTSA. In other Xitter news, I’ve a new follower: [Elon Reeve Musk](https://twitter.com/EMusk23698). ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8184 "2023-12-14T03:05:11Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Is this different than any other car company? I have an outstanding recall for my Ford Escape, and it’s probably the fourth or fifth one I’ve had to deal with. Millions of cars were recalled for Tabata air bag issues. Probably not to be honest. I’ve owned two new cars (I used to drive used cars, then bought a new Toyota that I drove for 17 years, and I’ve had my Chevy for 6 years - I like pay a car off and drive it as long as I can). Both needed recalls for serious issues. The Toyota was an airbag issue, and I think the Chevy was something to do with braking. It does seem to be something fairly routine for any automobile manufacturer. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8185 "2023-12-14T03:25:53Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > Surely the great free speech absolutist wouldn’t censor his own AI, this must be some sort of mistake. > > Also, I thought I was joking by changing the text of Elmo’s lawsuit against Media Matters to being against Grok. Now I’m not so sure it won’t actually happen. So Elon is trying to do now an AI rooted in distrust and hate. Do you want the evil god like AI from _[I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_No_Mouth,_and_I_Must_Scream)_, Elon? Because that is how you get evil god like AIs. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=408) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=410)