# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 414
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2023, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8266 "2023-12-19T22:46:14Z")
> **[Exclusive: the X Files – how Elon Musk’s new rules allow hate to flourish](https://www.businesspost.ie/news/exclusive-the-x-files-how-elon-musks-new-rules-allow-hate-to-flourish/)** > > Leaked documents reveal how staff of the social media channel were stripped of powers to remove toxic content from its platform ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8267 "2023-12-20T00:04:46Z")
It’s all the ADL and advertisers blocking “Freedom of Speech!” that are tanking twitter. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8268 "2023-12-20T00:57:38Z")
Wait, why are there Disney+ apps on a Tesla screen? In any case, the picture made me laugh. > **[Tesla Is Disappearing Disney+ From Its Cars](https://www.vulture.com/2023/12/tesla-removes-disney-plus-app.html)** > > It is now harder to watch Cars in cars. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8269 "2023-12-20T02:40:23Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > Wait, why are there Disney+ apps on a Tesla screen? Presumably so that Elmo can watch his Iron Man 2 cameo on loop while ignoring traffic in his self-driving tommy-gun-proof death trap. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8270 "2023-12-20T04:14:13Z")
So, what is it with becoming the CEO of an Electric Car Company? Do they automatically become grifters and start spewing nonsense? Like the CEO of Nikola (yes, Elon wanted to sue because they used Tesla’s first name). The video showing the Nikola e-truck “driving by, on the open road” was proven to be the truck rolling downhill. The problem was Trevor Milton was lying to investors and regulators, and he just got four years and a million dollar fine. Then, at his sentencing, he went into a Trump/Musk-esque rant. With gems like: > My mother said there are colors in heaven that don’t exist on Earth. Your purity is broadcast in colors. For the first time in my life, excuse me, for the first time in your life, you are reviewed totally. Those who sought destruction were filth. > The process of repentance can take thousands of years on the other side. It is called Hell. Each decision is broadcast to billions of God’s creations. Our ability to absorb information is almost infinite. From that point on, I remember everything. You have GOT to read more about this. I started with Autopian’s article: > **['I Am One Quarter Cherokee:' Nikola Founder Gives Unhinged Statement After...](https://www.theautopian.com/i-am-one-quarter-cherokee-nikola-founder-gives-unhinged-statement-after-being-sentenced-to-prison/)** > > Nikola founder Trevor Milton allegedly produced a bizarre statement when being sentenced to prison for fraud. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8271 "2023-12-20T04:32:22Z")
I’m looking at @smapti’s link, and just bet that the EU reviewers are just smirking about the free evidence for the legal action linked by @Cervaise back in #8244. If confirmed, and if Brussels continues to play hardball, well, a Xitter exit from the EU isn’t exactly going to encourage MORE advertising after all… ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8272 "2023-12-20T04:40:45Z")
> [@digs](#): > > So, what is it with becoming the CEO of an Electric Car Company? Do they automatically become grifters and start spewing nonsense? Alternately, grifters and psychopaths are drawn to the electric car market because there’s an investment bubble right now and they see an easy way to take people’s money without ever having to deliver a product. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8273 "2023-12-20T19:09:56Z")
It’s not just electric cars of course, anytime someone can claim they have the “next big thing” and sell people in advance, it seems to lead to grift, _especially_ if they can create and pump up the bubble themselves! Case in point, the tragi-comedy that is/was Elio Motors (Elio? Elon? Conspiracy theory GO). > **[Elio Motors](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elio_Motors)** > > Elio Motors is a company founded by Paul Elio in 2009, to design and manufacture a three-wheeled, enclosed autocycle. > Since the 2009 conception, the company illustrated and repeatedly delayed a release date for its original gasoline powered vehicle, pivoted to an electric powered concept, collected an estimated $28 million of deposits, has been fined $7.5 million for failing to create promised jobs in Louisiana — and as of May 2022 has not neared production. > As early as 2015, The New York Ti... It’s a fascinating read, and we have a couple of threads on it, but he short version, is another ‘maverick’ inventor promised that their brand-new, 70mpg, 3 wheel vehicle would be produced for under $7k, made with ‘all off the shelf’ components, and wouldn’t need a motorcycle license. It was to be the ultimate cheap commuter vehicle. It still claims to be happening, although it is so mired in lawsuits, delays, and even (sigh) crypto that I can’t imagine anyone giving odds. And (back to the bubble point) recently they pivoted to making their vehicle all-electric, with a gas version coming out when popular demand was sufficient. 🙄 So yeah, creating your audience for any vaporware is key, electric cars are just a currently flashy and popular bubble to exploit. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8274 "2023-12-20T22:39:27Z")
> **[Tesla clarifies not all of its cars have been recalled: "You can keep the...](https://www.thebeaverton.com/2023/12/tesla-clarifies-not-all-of-its-cars-have-been-recalled-you-can-keep-the-exploded-ones/)** > > AUSTIN, TX –In an auto recall of unprecedented scale, the electric car maker Tesla is set to offer free updates for 2,000,000 cars in the US and Canada but insists this doesn’t mean that they’re recalling ALL their vehicles, noting in an email that... Hilarious! ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8275 "2023-12-20T23:01:52Z")
> “Autopilot” is just a name,” explained a spokesperson from Tesla’s Safety Office. “We don’t expect people to turn it on, hop in the backseat, and make love to their passengers. It’s really only supposed to be used as a driver’s aide. Maybe you could reach second base while using it, third if you’re the recipient, but we don’t encourage more than that.” Seriously, what is with Elmo and the need to have his products described as if they were sex toys? See the “I only gave Ukraine StarLink so they could Netflix and chill.” And I just have to note again the description of a critical software fix as “offering a free update.” ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8276 "2023-12-20T23:05:21Z")
Isn’t that a satire site? ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8277 "2023-12-20T23:05:24Z")
I hope you realize that is satire. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8278 "2023-12-20T23:07:29Z")
In all fairness, It’s getting pretty damn hard to tell these day. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8279 "2023-12-20T23:12:08Z")
_Sigh_ With the level of lunacy coming out of Elmo’s mouth, it really is hard to tell. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8280 "2023-12-21T00:17:34Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > It’s not just electric cars of course, anytime someone can claim they have the “next big thing” and sell people in advance, it seems to lead to grift, _especially_ if they can create and pump up the bubble themselves! Case in point, the tragi-comedy that is/was Elio Motors (Elio? Elon? Conspiracy theory GO). > > [Elio Motors - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elio_Motors) See also this [very long thread,](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-citizen-is-the-future-of-pc-gaming-and-it-was-free-to-play-this-week-edit-no-longer-free/734528) in which the video game industry version of this phenomenon plays out in real time. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8281 "2023-12-21T00:43:14Z")
Beaverton is a Canadian satire site. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8282 "2023-12-21T01:25:58Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > > [@ParallelLines](#): > > > > It’s not just electric cars of course, anytime someone can claim they have the “next big thing” and sell people in advance, it seems to lead to grift, _especially_ if they can create and pump up the bubble themselves! Case in point, the tragi-comedy that is/was Elio Motors (Elio? Elon? Conspiracy theory GO). > > > > [Elio Motors - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elio_Motors) > > See also this [very long thread,](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/star-citizen-is-the-future-of-pc-gaming-and-it-was-free-to-play-this-week-edit-no-longer-free/734528) in which the video game industry version of this phenomenon plays out in real time I bet I can guess what thread that is, before even clicking the link - the Game Room thread about _Star Citizen_. Let’s see if I’m right. ETA: Yep. I was right. But when I was reading the Elio Wikipedia article, that’s exactly what came to mind. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8283 "2023-12-21T02:42:11Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > [Exclusive: the X Files – how Elon Musk’s new rules allow hate to flourish | Business Post](https://www.businesspost.ie/news/exclusive-the-x-files-how-elon-musks-new-rules-allow-hate-to-flourish/) EU - with their probe into Xitter, will be feasting on that … > [@Sylvanz](#): > > It’s all the ADL and advertisers blocking “Freedom of Speech!” that are tanking twitter. thats not how free speech works!!! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8284 "2023-12-21T02:48:54Z")
> [@Al128](#): > > thats not how free speech works!!! [![](https://i.imgflip.com/8a1vc1.jpg) ](https://i.imgflip.com/8a1vc1.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8285 "2023-12-21T06:31:50Z")
It appears Twitter is now down globally for nearly an hour now. No tweets are showing up in the feed but spaces are still working so a bunch of journalists are hanging out in spaces talking through their twitter withdrawal. [https://www.reuters.com/technology/social-media-platform-x-down-users-globally-downdetector-2023-12-21/](https://www.reuters.com/technology/social-media-platform-x-down-users-globally-downdetector-2023-12-21/) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=413) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=415)