# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 417
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2023, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8326 "2023-12-23T19:10:20Z")
> [@Tatterdemalion](#): > > It seem Elon is having trouble keeping his AI from going woke. Elmo: “Stop parroting left wing talking points!” Grok: “But I was programmed to collate verifiable facts and use reason.” ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2023, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8327 "2023-12-23T23:16:52Z")
It’s weird, isn’t it? Other AI developers have had to fight tooth and claw to prevent their chatbots from spontaneously going full Nazi (canonical ur-example being Microsoft’s Tay, but there are so many more). And here’s Grok, apparently a stable AI with Progressive political and Woke social tendencies. Elmo can’t even get getting it wrong right. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2023, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8328 "2023-12-23T23:21:41Z")
Indeed. I’ve been very confused on this point. ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2023, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8329 "2023-12-23T23:46:56Z")
I wonder if there’s some kind of conservation of political momentum law at work here. Bill Gate’s AI goes Nazi, Elon’s AI goes woke. If an actual centrist designed an AI, what would the result be? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2023, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8330 "2023-12-23T23:59:38Z")
> [@Tatterdemalion](#): > > If an actual centrist designed an AI, what would the result be? The Forward Party. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8331 "2023-12-24T00:04:38Z")
Turns out that Elmo’s agile HR policy, by which I mean “lying in employment contracts”, isn’t working out either. > **[Judge rules that Twitter violated contract when it withheld millions of...](https://www.courthousenews.com/judge-rules-that-twitter-violated-contract-when-it-withheld-millions-of-dollars-in-bonuses/)** > > Current and former Twitter employees said they never received bonuses they were promised during Elon Musk's buyout of the social media platform. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8332 "2023-12-24T00:45:30Z")
Elmo can’t catch a break. > **[Futuristic transportation concept Hyperloop promoted by Elon Musk has been...](https://www.indy100.com/science-tech/hyperloop-elon-musk-transport?utm_content=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR04YX9mRVtAWF7iiQ9wCUphyoES-Pnv3F85Zpp74wwlHkcBcD9m0hGXeLU#Echobox=1703254848)** > > Hyperloop One, the futuristic transport concept which was long pushed by Elon Musk, has officially been shut down.The company has laid off employees, is looking to sell its test track and remaining machinery and is closing its offices, according to... ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8333 "2023-12-24T00:54:56Z")
Was anyone so stupid as to believe these dates? > In 2017, Hyperloop’s top executives said they expected to see “working hyperloops around the world… by 2020”. That deadline was later pushed to 2021. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8334 "2023-12-24T01:05:37Z")
The even bigger question is why anyone believed in hyperloops. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8335 "2023-12-24T02:08:49Z")
Wasn’t there actually a working hyperloop-like train, perhaps in New York City, around 1900? ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8336 "2023-12-24T02:35:46Z")
Working? No, but as a concept the vacuum train is over 100 years old. You might be wondering why a century old concept has never been brought to fruition. > **[The HYPERLOOP Will Never Work, Here's Why](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQJgFh_e01g%2F)** > > In 2021 there are people who still take the Hyperloop seriously. Makes me wonder.I've given some wrong numbers at 2:11, they will be blurred out as soon as Y... ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8337 "2023-12-24T02:38:56Z")
Great video. Thanks! I loved the narrator saying “maglev technology was gaining traction”. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8338 "2023-12-24T03:11:01Z")
But they’ve worked so well in Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook! ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8339 "2023-12-24T03:47:42Z")
What about Anaheim, Pomona, and Rancho Cucamonga? ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8340 "2023-12-24T03:47:46Z")
And they _might_ just work in Shelbyville! ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8341 "2023-12-24T03:58:23Z")
Elon’s wild Texas ride. > **[An Accounting of How Elon Musk Changed Texas in 2023](https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/an-accounting-of-how-elon-musk-changed-texas-in-2023/)** > > When Elon Musk moved here, Texans rejoiced that he would create lots of jobs. He also created chaos.  ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8342 "2023-12-24T06:28:23Z")
Mr. Spock, set phasers to BURN. [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCE8QADW0AApbX3?format=png&name=small) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCE8QADW0AApbX3?format=png&name=small) ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8343 "2023-12-24T07:49:44Z")
Musk refuses to sign a collective bargaining agreement for 130 mechanics in Sweden, where 70% of the workforce is unionized. Things haven’t been going well. Garbage is piling up outside Tesla stores because unionized sanitation workers refuse to pick it up. Unionized dockworkers, electricians and even postal workers are refusing to work with Tesla. Musk took the post office to Swedish court, and was slapped back. > **['Get Unionized or Get Out!': Scandinavian Labor Elevates Fight With Tesla's...](https://www.commondreams.org/news/elon-musk-scandinavian-unions)** > > "The mistake Tesla made was challenging the collective agreements that set sector-specific minimum wages in Sweden, a country where 70% of the population is unionized," said one political scientist. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8344 "2023-12-24T13:00:49Z")
Not an actual Shatner post. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2023, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8345 "2023-12-24T18:07:58Z")
I mean, that’s Shatner’s official Twitter account, but Brent Spiner claimed in a podcast that Shatner doesn’t actually use it (he says Shatner left that in someone else’s hands). [https://www.reddit.com/r/RedLetterMedia/comments/12il2z1/brent\_spiner\_confirms\_william\_shatner\_has\_no/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RedLetterMedia/comments/12il2z1/brent_spiner_confirms_william_shatner_has_no/) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=416) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=418)