# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 423
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2024, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8446 "2024-01-08T16:30:50Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > The ketamine, mushrooms, MDMA and LSD are all non-addictive and have few side affects lasting more than a few days, particularly if he is “micro-dosing” I’d take that as rumor. Evidence that I know of would say that continuous usage will slowly drive you insane. > **[John C. Lilly](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Lilly)** > > John Cunningham Lilly (January 6, 1915 – September 30, 2001) was an American physician, neuroscientist, psychoanalyst, psychonaut, philosopher, writer and inventor. He was a member of a group of counterculture thinkers that included Timothy Leary, Ram Dass, and Werner Erhard, all frequent visitors to the Lilly home. He often stirred controversy, especially among mainstream scientists. > Lilly conducted high-altitude research during World War II and later trained as a psychoanalyst. He gained ren... ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2024, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8447 "2024-01-08T17:14:26Z")
I’d say the evidence is that whichever specific drugs Elmo is using in whatever ways he is (or has been) using them is certainly resulting in insane behavior now. Until / unless he stops we won’t know if his mental condition is reversible. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2024, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8448 "2024-01-08T21:09:42Z")
Just don’t tell him to put a roast in the oven when he’s baby sitting and he should be fine. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2024, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8449 "2024-01-08T23:26:43Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > Evidence that I know of would say that continuous usage will slowly drive you insane. John Lilly was not microdosing. He was doing massive doses. I’m not sure what his regimen was, but almost certainly it was mostly LSD. I also don’t think it drove him insane. Eccentric, yes, many of the early LSD pioneers started off a bit weird, and embraced that (Timothy Leary, the Grateful Dead, Aldous Huxley etc) after using the chemical. Would you care to cite your evidence? Wikipedia does not suggest Lilly was insane. I mean, I’m quite a strange person but I am not insane, although I have taken LSD more than 100 times (lost count there!) ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2024, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8450 "2024-01-08T23:31:10Z")
And by “evidence”, maybe some peer-reviewed studies, not “I read this guy’s wiki page and he seems pretty crazy.” ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2024, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8451 "2024-01-08T23:46:39Z")
What, didn’t you hear the ‘tripping on LSD X number of times makes you legally insane’ factoid in your youth? Yeah, it’s not true, it’s a factoid in the original definition of the word. > **[Are You Deemed Legally Insane If You've Taken LSD Seven Times?](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/lsd-use-legally-insane/)** > > Is someone who has taken LSD more than seven times automatically deemed legally insane? ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8452 "2024-01-09T01:48:19Z")
Musk says that ever since the Rogan toke, NASA has required him to take random drug tests. He says that in three years of being tested they’ve never found a thing. When he was on Rogan, he said that he’d never tried pot before. Rogan convinced him to take a couple of puffs on a blunt, which is the picture everyone sees, and that was that. Then NASA freaked out about it, and he agreed to random drug tests. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8453 "2024-01-09T01:55:10Z")
> **[Elon Musk says '3 years of random testing' found no traces of drug use as he...](https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-tesla-ceo-denies-drug-use-allegations-2024-1)** > > Elon Musk said "not even trace quantities" of drugs were found in his system during three years of random testing mandated by NASA after he famously smoked a weed on the Joe Rogan podcast. > When contacted by Business Insider, a spokesperson for the Journal said: “We stand by our reporting.” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8454 "2024-01-09T01:58:20Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Musk says that ever since the Rogan toke, NASA has required him to take random drug tests. He says that in three years of being tested they’ve never found a thing. I believe that about as much as I believe that WWE tests its main-eventers for steroids as often as it does the midcard guys. X-Pac never failed a drug test in WWE because he insisted that he’d only take one if Triple H had to take one at the same time, and sure enough he somehow got skipped every time the testers came around. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8455 "2024-01-09T02:05:14Z")
What were they testing for? I’m a gonna need to see the long form. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8456 "2024-01-09T02:18:06Z")
I hear they’re testing for birtherism. But it’s very hard to cure once acquired. And usually the signs and symptoms are pretty obvious. So it’s not clear the testing adds much diagnostic value. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8457 "2024-01-09T02:45:12Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > When he was on Rogan, he said that he’d never tried pot before. And I’m certain that you believed Clinton when he said he didn’t inhale too, right? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8458 "2024-01-09T03:20:32Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Musk says Oh, I see the problem. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8459 "2024-01-09T03:26:07Z")
Well, shit, we have bitter fights all the time, but I have to say that I do admire your wit! 😀 ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8460 "2024-01-09T03:39:53Z")
@Sam_Stone: let’s say Musk is telling the truth. That just means he was clean for 3 years after he smokes on Seth Rogan. That just gets us to 2021. Most of the stuff he’s done that makes him seem like he’s losing touch with reality happened in 2022-2023. In other words, he was clean then. But that doesn’t mean he is now. I believe he admitted to ketamine therapy, for depression. Drugs are tempting to the depressed. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8461 "2024-01-09T04:08:48Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > > [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > > > Musk says that ever since the Rogan toke, NASA has required him to take random drug tests. He says that in three years of being tested they’ve never found a thing. > > I believe that about as much as I believe that WWE tests its main-eventers for steroids as often as it does the midcard guys. X-Pac never failed a drug test in WWE because he insisted that he’d only take one if Triple H had to take one at the same time, and sure he somehow got skipped every time the testers came around. At the risk of starting a hijack, why would the WWE care whether one of their actors is using steroids? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8462 "2024-01-09T04:29:14Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > At the risk of starting a hijack, why would the WWE care whether one of their actors is using steroids? This would have been just a few years after Vince McMahon nearly went to federal prison for providing steroids to his wrestlers, so the early days of their at least pretending to have a wellness policy. They’re a little more serious these days especially after the death of Eddie Guerrero, but it’s an open secret that the guys on the top get a pass - when UFC popped Brock Lesnar for taking estrogen blockers awhile back, WWE outright admitted they didn’t consider him a full-time wrestler and as such he wasn’t subject to their wellness policy. > **[United States v. McMahon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._McMahon)** > > United States v. McMahon et al (9:93-cr-01276) is a 1994 United States District Court for the Eastern District of New York criminal court case brought against Vince McMahon, chairman of the World Wrestling Federation on suspicion of supplying illegal anabolic steroids to his professional wrestlers. The jury found McMahon not guilty on July 23, 1994. > Vince McMahon was the chairman of Titan Sports Inc., the parent company of the World Wrestling Federation, a professional wrestling promotion. I... ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8463 "2024-01-09T05:02:44Z")
Anyway, back on topic, here’s a Cybertruck stuck in what looks like maybe an inch or two of snow. > ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8464 "2024-01-09T05:22:04Z")
My man. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2024, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8465 "2024-01-09T08:12:52Z")
Don’t know what they’re using as tires? Must be slicks just coming from the drag strip to set a new time record for electric trucks. Really, any decent winter tire should do great on the truck; AWD, plenty of weight, electronic traction control to meter the torque. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=422) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=424)