# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8546 "2024-01-11T01:42:42Z")

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> [@duality72](#):
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> Dosage matters.

Meh. I once took 10 hits at once, and I wouldn’t call the resulting trip anywhere near “extremely reality distorting.” It was fun, but nowhere near as psychedelic as I was hoping it would be.

Put it this way: You can’t really fatally overdose on LSD.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8547 "2024-01-11T02:05:28Z")

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I think it’s _safer_ to say that LSDs effects are _highly_ variable, depending on the person, said person’s personality, circumstances, and mindset. So to say it’s extremely-reality distorting or just mind expanding can both be true, depending on said preconditions.

BACK to MUSK however, whether it is from his own mindset, or amplified/altered by whichever chemicals he may be taking, his personality and actions are ever more toxic.

A better question is how toxic Elon and Xitter are going to get before it becomes fatal for the platform!

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8548 "2024-01-11T02:12:47Z")

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Or fatal for Elmo.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8549 "2024-01-11T02:52:11Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Meh. I once took 10 hits at once, and I wouldn’t call the resulting trip anywhere near “extremely reality distorting.” It was fun, but nowhere near as psychedelic as I was hoping it would be.
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> Put it this way: You can’t really fatally overdose on LSD.

Well clearly, you’re clinically insane. I mean what was the most common number of hits of acid one had to ingest in their lifetime to be considered legally insane according to the Snopes article _cough_ debunking it? 7?

> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> BACK to MUSK however, whether it is from his own mindset, or amplified/altered by whichever chemicals he may be taking, his personality and actions are ever more toxic.

To quote the makers of Ambien after Rosanne Barr blamed her late-night racist Twitting on [“Ambien Twetting”](https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2018/may/30/roseanne-ambien-racism-tweet-side-effect-response-sanofi):

> The drug manufacturer Sanofi has clarified that one of its most popular medications, the sedative Ambien, does not cause racism. Sanofi tweeted: “While all pharmaceutical treatments have side effects, racism is not a known side effect of any Sanofi medication.”

Sorry, believing the Jews are conspiring to poison the blood of the white race through the Great Replacement isn’t a side effect of ketamine usage. At best reduced inhibitions to publicly state pre-existing racist beliefs are the only side effect of it or any other drug usage.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8550 "2024-01-11T03:07:00Z")

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Ketamine made me open my mouth and my true self just kinda poured out. Sorry.

Nope, actually, I’m not sorry.

– Love, Elmo

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8551 "2024-01-11T04:48:05Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Ketamine made me open my mouth and my true self just kinda poured out

In ~~vino~~ ketamino, veritas.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8552 "2024-01-11T18:24:15Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Meh. I once took 10 hits at once, and I wouldn’t call the resulting trip anywhere near “extremely reality distorting.” It was fun, but nowhere near as psychedelic as I was hoping it would be.

You must’ve had some watered down shit. I took acid twice in my life and I had plenty of experience with pot and shrooms. I took 1.5 hits each time and then spent many hours completely tripping balls. It was very reality distorting for me.

Or, maybe it just doesn’t affect you like it does me.

And, sorry to continue this boring hijack. Can we get back to talking about the burning dumpster fire that used to be called Twitter?

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8553 "2024-01-11T18:28:42Z")

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> [@Tatterdemalion](#):
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> Kind of like Mike Lindell.

Mike got off drugs and started a successful pillow company. There is evidence that he is back on drugs and has ruined said company. The drugs may be pharmaceutical or Trump-worship or both.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8554 "2024-01-11T18:43:19Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> People would always be asking you to haul stuff around for them.

That, is in part, why I own one. I bought it for myself, to separate my dogs from my children, because the one dog is extra noisy. He LOVES to tell everyone he is going somewhere fun.

Also its great for camping, especially if I am taking the dogs. Plenty of space if I pack carefully and tie down, so plenty of space for the dogs.

But as a side effect, I have been really happy to help out with various friends to haul random shit. They just have to help take off the canopy (not sure that is the term for the fibreglass cover in tbe US) and put it back on, which is a 2 person job. But that is what friends are for. So I help them.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8555 "2024-01-11T18:47:07Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> But as a side effect, I have been really happy to help out with various friends to haul random shit. They just have to help take off the canopy (not sure that is the term for the fibreglass cover in tbe US) and put it back on, which is a 2 person job. But that is what friends are for. So I help them.

Agree with this 100%. Our friends knew they could borrow my truck to move things around, and so they did. Glad to help.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8556 "2024-01-11T18:56:41Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> They just have to help take off the canopy (not sure that is the term for the fibreglass cover in tbe US) and put it back on, which is a 2 person job. But that is what friends are for. So I help them.

I’ve often seen this referred to as a “truck bed topper” in the US, though I’ll point out that I’m not a truck owner so I may not have the terminology right… I’ve also seen it called a “camper shell” or “cap”. The term “canopy” is also not unheard of, though I believe that’s usually referencing a softer cover.

> **[Camper shell](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camper_shell)**
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> A camper shell (also canopy, and sometimes truck topper, pap cap, truck cap, bed cap, box cap, or simply shell) is a small housing or rigid canopy used as a pickup truck or coupe utility accessory. The housing is usually made of fiberglass or aluminum, but sometimes wood\[citation needed\] or canvas, and is mounted atop the pickup truck's rear bed. It usually covers the entire bed of the pickup truck, and is large enough to be used for camping purposes, thus making the vehicle an RV. The top o A ...

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8557 "2024-01-11T19:09:46Z")

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Ja. I took 3 and a half tabs, so probably 3000 micrograms, and an unknown amout of liquid (different occasion) but probably in the same area for my biggest trips.

It was fine. Second experience gave me a bad trip for about 2 hours, but I know what I am doing. Bad trips are easily manageable.

To quote one of my favourite music artists, Hallucinogen (yes, I know, nominative determinism, though in this case deliberate)

“There is an area of the mind called ‘unsane’, beyond sanity. Picture a circle wih a fine split in it. On the one side is sanity, the other is insanity. In the middle is unsane. Beyond sanity.”

Any argument ( and this is not directed to @EllisDee ) that the subjective expeririece of anyone using a psychoactive chemical is not real is bullshit.

Objectively we can say, “that fluorescent manta ray that flew over your shoulder” is a hallucination, and yes, when that happened to me, I knew it was a hallucination. I mean, that’s part of the point of taking psychedelics.

But that experience is no less real than, I dunno, getting in trouble with the librarian for having two late books. It is real. I have memories. Granted, no one else saw it, but I did. It is real to me.

And I just realised I promised to exit the psychedelics discussion earlier, but got drawn back in.

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8558 "2024-01-11T19:16:21Z")

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I know this may come as a surprise, but it seem Musk might be racist…

> **[Elon Musk Seems to Endorse Tweet Saying Students at Black Colleges Have Low IQs](https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-endorses-tweet-saying-students-at-black-colle-1851156533)**
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> The world’s richest man shares more of his thoughts about race on X.com.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8559 "2024-01-11T19:20:57Z")

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God, he is a fucking embarrasment to South Africa.

In Cape Town we’d use the word “poes” which is the most insulting insult there is, aside from ascribing it to a mother.

Musk lived the high life here. His schooling was at the prestigious Pretoria Boys, whose pricing kept it very white. He also was mostly educated in manditory all-white schools. He’s only 2 years older than I am, so he would have “suffered” non white school colleagues for just two years.

I, as I have said before, am Zimbabwean. By the time I got to school age, all classes were multiracial. I think that helped my world view.

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8560 "2024-01-11T19:27:47Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> It was very reality distorting for me.

Isn’t what it distorts _your perception_ of reality rather than reality? I remember talking down someone having a really bad trip that included a lot about the moon melting away. Spoiler: the moon is still out there, at least as of last night.

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8561 "2024-01-11T19:45:34Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> But as a side effect, I have been really happy to help out with various friends to haul random shit.

YOU are a vey nice person.

I don’t claim to be. At least, not about everything. There are tons of things I will do for friends, and some even for utter strangers, but load and unload big/heavy/awkward items? Nope. I’m not up to that.

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8562 "2024-01-11T20:05:54Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> sn’t what it distorts _your perception_ of reality rather than reality?

Yes, my brain was not distorting reality, it was distorting my perception of it. I was just keeping the same wording as former posters.

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8563 "2024-01-11T21:29:57Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> Hell, even chocolate or coffee produce an altered state of mind.

Relativism to the point of absurdity at its finest. Or is there a whiff of whataboutism in there, too?

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8564 "2024-01-11T21:32:44Z")

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Reminds me of one of these kinds of shirts:

[![](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/A13usaonutL._CLa%7C2140%2C2000%7C71sSGlRDq0L.png%7C0%2C0%2C2140%2C2000%2B0.0%2C0.0%2C2140.0%2C2000.0_AC_UL1500_.png) ](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/A13usaonutL._CLa%7C2140%2C2000%7C71sSGlRDq0L.png%7C0%2C0%2C2140%2C2000%2B0.0%2C0.0%2C2140.0%2C2000.0_AC_UL1500_.png)

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**Post date:** [January 11, 2024, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8565 "2024-01-11T22:06:20Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> Spoiler: the moon is still out there, at least as of last night.

Cite?

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