# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 436
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2024, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8706 "2024-01-20T20:21:44Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > people who snitched to the authorities were said to be “narccing” or had “narced”. Nitpick: Partridge (Consise Dictionary of Slang) dates _Nark_ (an informant) back to 1864 and proposes the Romany _Nak_ as it’s origin. Which is not to say that _Narc_ isn’t now also in common use, with the two etymologies having become entangled. Fun aside: the word _Grass_ - as in _to grass up_, to inform on - is Cockney Rhyming slang: The grass in the park. j ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2024, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8707 "2024-01-20T22:36:09Z")
Cool. I did not know that. Thank you. I was a tween / teen in the heyday of 1960s drug culture and the whole prohibition scare / build-up, so it seemed as if all the associated terminology was pretty fresh. Excepting “reefer” of course. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2024, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8708 "2024-01-21T08:02:45Z")
[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GC19GlUWYAA9NxL?format=jpg&name=900x900) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GC19GlUWYAA9NxL?format=jpg&name=900x900) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8709 "2024-01-22T00:51:36Z")
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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8710 "2024-01-22T01:38:37Z")
How long will it be before the “Readers add context” feature gets deep-sixed? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8711 "2024-01-22T01:45:44Z")
Nah, just made better! “We’ve noticed a number of bad actors have been spreading misinformation in our community notes. Going forward, only premium members will be permitted take part in our community notes project.” ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8712 "2024-01-22T03:22:25Z")
Oh shit, poor Elmo. You know what that means, right? He won’t be eligible for ad sharing revenue from that Twit! > **[X won’t pay creators for tweets that get fact checked with community notes](https://www.engadget.com/x-wont-pay-creators-for-tweets-that-get-fact-checked-with-community-notes-174206477.html)** > > Elon Musk said that X is making a “slight change” to its monetization program and that tweets that are fact-checked via community notes will no longer be eligible for payouts as part of X’s revenue-sharing program. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8713 "2024-01-22T03:26:06Z")
I can’t see how that could be weaponized at all. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8714 "2024-01-22T03:33:01Z")
So if they turn out to be true, no monetization? ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8715 "2024-01-22T03:34:09Z")
In a further slight change to Xitter policy, community notes will no longer be permitted for any tweets issued by anyone named Elmo, Elon, Musk, Muskrat, or Apartheid Clyde. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8716 "2024-01-22T04:06:17Z")
No wonder Blinky and Inky always seemed to be going in their own directions most of the time. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8717 "2024-01-22T11:48:10Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > So if they turn out to be true, no monetization? And if you just want to fuck with someone’s monetization, you can just fact-check them, even if it’s factual, as you imply. ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8718 "2024-01-22T12:02:22Z")
It would be a real shame if somebody were to fact check Mr. Beast’s video. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8719 "2024-01-22T12:54:16Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > John Lilly was not microdosing. He was doing massive doses. I’m not sure what his regimen was, but almost certainly it was mostly LSD. > > I also don’t think it drove him insane. “Insane” is of course a loaded word. It can mean someone who can’t function outside a hospital, it can mean someone who just doesn’t confirm to strict social expectations, or someone who lives much of their lives in a fantasy world. John Lilly definitely had a strong habit of consuming injectable ketamine, and it did lead him to exist in sort of a fantasy world where he was receiving messages from aliens who hid themselves in the tails of passing comets, and he was concerned that they were going to have a large intra-species war that would have harmful effects on humanity. He beleived that the universe was permeated by a web of consciousness that was manifested by coincidences. One of ketamine’s odd traits is it makes people highly sensitive to detecting coincidence, and feeling that said coincidences were so unlikely to be natural that they were obviously directed by God, aliens, or some other all-powerful intelligence. I’ve experienced that sensation myself and I know whereof he speaks. Lilly wrote of his belief that there existed an entire alien bureaucracy tasked with managing coincidences on earth, in the solar system, other galaxies, and the universe at large. If the man wasn’t trolling or pranking then he was truly bugnuts insane. Ketamine is also known to be highly psychologically habit-forming. People delude themselves about this because there’s no physical withdrawal, but people with access to large amounts of K find themselves dipping into it constantly because it feels harmless, and the internet says it’s safe, used as a field-hospital anaesthetic because its strong effectiveness and the near-impossibility of overdose. But with enough frequent use, people suffer Lilly-style mental dysfunction as well as lower UTI problems. I don’t believe Musk is taking messages from aliens, and his thing about colonizing Mars is obviously a scam to recruit the support of self-described dreamers, visionaries, futurists, and other like-minded navel-gazing jackoffs. But Musk does sound like the kind of guy who can talk himself into believing it’s OK to rail a few grams of K on a daily basis, pushing him into the hole of pseudo-visionary (At one point he posted on Twitter “a neuron doesn’t know it’s part of a brain” like whoaaaaaaa, dude, that’s some serious stoner dorm-room philosophy there). And if you’re the richest man in the world, then K is exactly sort of drug to convince you that it’s not a coincidence, you were sent on a mission from cosmic intelligence to save humanity, man. As far as all the rest of those drugs, they’re fine for _occasional_ consumption, but if you a lot more time thinking up weird shit than being plugged into the consensus reality where most other humans exist, then you do raise the risk of becoming mentally marooned in your own weirdness, giving LSD to dolphins like John Lilly. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8720 "2024-01-22T14:12:34Z")
Thanks for that. Great post and informed me. > [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > beleived This is a total stoner spelling nitpick: “believed” contains the word “lie”… I am not a stoner but I used to be. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8721 "2024-01-22T15:01:42Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > This is a total stoner spelling nitpick: “believed” contains the word “lie”… I think it’s spelled with “lei” on Hawaii. ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8722 "2024-01-22T15:42:44Z")
Just as a postscript about the above, Musk’s use of MDMA creates other forms of unreality, such as a strong feeling of unity and acceptance with the rest of humanity, without any of the actual work of building relationships, listening to people, or getting to know people. It’s a great drug for going to a rave and feeling the sensation of group agape love and interconnectedness. It can make you look at humanity with more empathy, tolerance and respect. But if you’re someone who is doing his goddamn best to soak up every ounce of attention, adoration, and acceptance on the planet, MDMA is exactly the drug to tell you that you’re a great person who is doing a fantastic job, who is universally loved, and should never change. Now pair the ketamine story with the MDMA story, and Musk’s known & photographed habit of going to raves where he stumbles around in a daze, and combine that with his public utterances and behaviors, and it’s pretty obvious where the man’s head is. He thinks he’s on a divine mission, he thinks he’s loved by all. He gains most of his human interaction digitally, leading him to think that any critical or less-than-adoring interaction must be some sort of inhuman bot to be algorithmically solved away. I’m not saying drugs drove Musk insane, but this is the kind of effect that ketamine and MDMA will have on a narcissistic megalomaniac. I’m sure he’s taking other drugs, I can’t guess which ones or how much, but we can at least be sure that none of it is helping the situation. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8723 "2024-01-22T17:15:00Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > MDMA is exactly the drug to tell you that you’re a great person who is doing a fantastic job, I have my doubts about this, having done a lot of it. Self confidence is huge, sure, and your friends might tell youbarexare a fantastic person who is doing a fantastic job Compliments when you are high are nice but not necessarily sincere (they are in the moment) but they well may be overblown. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2024, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8724 "2024-01-22T18:36:45Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Lilly wrote of his belief that there existed an entire alien bureaucracy tasked with managing coincidences on earth, in the solar system, other galaxies, and the universe at large. If the man wasn’t trolling or pranking then he was truly bugnuts insane. Note, this is fundamentally no different that many versions of a substantial portion of the American populace who believe in an Omnipotent, Omniscient being who watches the fall of every sparrow and to whom everything happens due to their will. Which, I supposed, we cannot _absolutely_ rule out is an Alien after all. 🙂 So, in the sense of “insane” as living their lives in a fantasy world, we should be careful to say that he is “bugnuts insane” because those may be the majority! [yes, I know the SDMB and myself for that matter often consider true believers to be so, but not all, and I also wanted to get my FSM-imbued right to get a nitpick in!] Back to Musk though, since it’s his thread, IMHO when it comes to Musk and Drugs, I’m with @HMS_Irruncible > [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > I’m not saying drugs drove Musk insane, but this is the kind of effect that ketamine and MDMA will have on a narcissistic megalomaniac. I’m sure he’s taking other drugs, I can’t guess which ones or how much, but we can at least be sure that none of it is helping the situation. Musk was always an asshole, drugs just made him more free to explore his inner asshole and his wealth and platform makes it unspeakably easy to share it. And that’s the last I’m going to mention and _think_ about Musk exploring his inner asshole! 🤢 ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2024, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8725 "2024-01-24T08:00:10Z")
I’m guessing [this nonsense](https://www.aol.com/news/elon-musk-tells-audience-jewish-060604677.html) is Musk’s attempt to fend off accusations he’s anti-Semitic. > [Elon Musk](https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-problems-twitter-x-tesla-gamble-luck-run-out-2023-12?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=yahoo.com), the tech billionaire who has been accused of airing antisemitic sentiments and conspiracy theories on his social media platform, X, said he had so many Jewish friends he was “Jewish by association” but added that he was “naive” about antisemitism. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=435) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=437)