# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8806 "2024-01-27T20:10:18Z")

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> [@on a tee-shirt worn by an accordion player](#):
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> Accordions don’t play Lady of Spain; people do.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8807 "2024-01-27T20:11:20Z")

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And I played a mean Lady of Spain.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8808 "2024-01-27T20:39:03Z")

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We got my grandmother Welk’s autobiography ([Ah-One, Ah-Two!: Life with My Musical Family by Lawrence Welk | Goodreads](https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/3443059)) when it was in hardback in 1974 - I think I read it, because it was on paper, and within reach (my criteria for reading a book). If you were in 3rd grade in 1982, you’re a young pup (born when I was in 3rd grade or so).

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8809 "2024-01-27T21:12:58Z")

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Just like Myron Floren. You’re welcome.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8810 "2024-01-28T00:48:59Z")

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You can no longer search for Taylor Swift on Twitter because people were using the platform to distribute AI deepfake porn of her.

[https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/27/business/taylor-swift-x-search/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/27/business/taylor-swift-x-search/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8811 "2024-01-28T00:52:21Z")

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Remember that dog poop toothpaste ad I posted a while back? I’ve blocked so many fucking weird ads, this is where I am now. Mysteriously, replies have been disabled.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/8oJFoCE.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/8oJFoCE.jpg)

> [@Smapti](#):
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> You can no longer search for Taylor Swift on Twitter because people were using the platform to distribute AI deepfake porn of her.

One thing I loved was that before they did this, tons of Swifties posted wholesome pictures and video of her with that hashtag, in order to bury the other ones.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8812 "2024-01-28T00:56:40Z")

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The bastards who do that sort of shit should be locked up. Imagine that was your child.

I’m ashamed to be a member of the same god damed species who are capable of it.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8813 "2024-01-28T03:29:14Z")

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Not directly about Elmo, but since he’s so enamored of social media that he paid $44 billion to be the Grand Poobah of Xitter, I found the article below relevant. Rats could add substantially to the Xitter user base, allowing Elmo to claim tremendous growth in new Xitter signups, although a high proportion of the new users would mainly be posting pictures of … well, rats. Rats have no money AFAIK, so maybe Elmo could give them complimentary blue checkmarks.

> **[Artist trained rats to take selfies to make a point about social media | CBC...](https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/rat-selfies-1.7093886)**
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> When Augustin Lignier built a photo booth for rats, he was really trying to point the lens at humanity.

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**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8814 "2024-01-28T05:56:00Z")

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Is it a bad thing that I kind of want the Caesar pen holder?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8815 "2024-01-28T06:04:35Z")

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8816 "2024-01-28T08:21:25Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> The bastards who do that sort of shit should be locked up. Imagine that was your child.

Taylor Swift is a child?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8817 "2024-01-28T08:23:48Z")

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She’s still their child to her parents.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8818 "2024-01-28T08:29:17Z")

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She’s also an adult, and a _very_ public figure.

Look, making pornographic images of celebrities is as old as the graphic-based internet, and photorealistic images of celebs having sex are as old as Photoshop. I’m sure you’re familiar with Rule 34, right? Swift is the biggest celebrity in the world right now, so obviously there is going to be more porn featuring her than anyone else. It’s just how things work. The time to ban celebrity porn was 30 years ago, not now.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8819 "2024-01-28T08:47:21Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> The time to ban celebrity porn was 30 years ago, not now.

Deepfake porn is illegal in the UK and in several US states.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8820 "2024-01-28T09:59:36Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> She’s also an adult,

Did you misread that as an accusation of child porn? Because that’s not what it was about.

> [@Alessan](#):
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> and a _very_ public figure.`

What does that have to do with anything? That matters for libel and the like, not sexual abuse.

> [@Alessan](#):
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> It’s just how things work. The time to ban celebrity porn was 30 years ago, not now.

Your fallacy is: Appeal to Common Practice, and no, it is never too late to do the right thing. Ask the #MeToo Movement.

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8821 "2024-01-28T10:07:35Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> You can no longer search for Taylor Swift on Twitter because people were using the platform to distribute AI deepfake porn of her.

I SO wish I knew how to do deepfakes. Ever since I heard of them I’ve wanted to do deepfakes of Barack Obama doing Donald Trump speeches; the outrage of the MAGAhat crowd at hearing the exact same ideas they support coming from Obama would he hilarious.

Unfortunately, cutting edge tech has gotten co-opted for porn since the first cave drawings.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8822 "2024-01-28T10:13:05Z")

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> [@epbrown](#):
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> Unfortunately, cutting edge tech has gotten co-opted for porn since the first cave drawings.

To paraphrase a line from Coupling, prehistoric man invented fire so he could look at naked bottoms in the dark.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8823 "2024-01-28T10:18:07Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Did you misread that as an accusation of child porn? Because that’s not what it was about.

I just wanted to make sure a highly successful, intelligent and independent artist and businesswoman wasn’t being infantilized.

> [@MrDibble](#):
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> What does that have to do with anything? That matters for libel and the like, not sexual abuse.

For private, non-celebrity individuals, Deepfake and its ilk are definitely a form of harassment and abuse. For a billionaire mega-celebrity, it’s… background noise. It’s so far beneath their notice that it’s not even worth commenting on. When billions of people are talking about you, some of them are bound to say disgusting things.

In the end, it’s about power. In this case, like it or not, it’s the pornographers who are punching up.

> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Your fallacy is: Appeal to Common Practice, and no, it is never too late to do the right thing. Ask the #MeToo Movement.

It’s not so much common practice as much as how at this point, it’s impossible to get the genie back in the bottle.

Look, I’m no fan of this type of porn - I think this shit is disgusting. But just because something squicks me out, I’m not sure it should be illegal.

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8824 "2024-01-28T10:31:32Z")

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I’m not sure if making it illegal would do anything about it - but let celebrities sue the pornographers into oblivion, and that might make them stop using their likenesses.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2024, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/8825 "2024-01-28T10:36:56Z")

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If X were being inundated with fake Elon Musk porn, would you think the same?

I’m sorry, but I’m not rooting for the 0.1% here.

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