# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 469
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9396 "2024-04-02T20:55:17Z")
> [@digs](#): > > I wonder how many people, like me, have crossed Tesla off their shopping lists due to Musk’s sanity. I have but not due to Musk. There are lots of alternatives to Tesla that are far more affordable and when the time comes for me to move to an electric vehicle (some time in the next decade probably) I will be looking at other options for sure. Though Musk being a dangerous lunatic and the fear that one of his whims may screw up my car is a factor as well. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9397 "2024-04-02T21:17:12Z")
I don’t have an example to show, and I’m not going to go looking for one and I wouldn’t share it even if I did, but I’m reading reports that the “PUSSY IN BIO” bots that seem to randomly comment on tweets all the time are now sharing literal child porn. If this is true and Elmo either can’t or won’t do anything about it, then things are gonna get ugly real quick. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9398 "2024-04-02T21:38:14Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > If this is true and Elmo either can’t or won’t do anything about it, then things are gonna get ugly real quick. Twitter has had a problem with child pornography going back years. They’ve lost advertisers over it, this was from September 2022: [Reuters Exclusive: Brands blast Twitter for ads next to child pornography accounts](https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-brands-blast-twitter-ads-next-child-pornography-accounts-2022-09-28/) That article was from around the time Elon took over. **Since then** , he slashed staff and cut down support massively. He has given lip service to fighting child pornography, but as far as I can see he has only taken measures that work against that goal. I’m not saying he doesn’t care about it, but it doesn’t seem to be high on his priority list. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9399 "2024-04-02T21:46:32Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Twitter has had a problem with child pornography going back years. They’ve lost advertisers over it, this was from September 2022: That’s a problem, but if spambots are posting it in the replies of, say, the National Weather Service or UNICEF, it’s gonna be even uglier. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9400 "2024-04-02T22:02:13Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > > [@digs](#): > > > > I wonder how many people, like me, have crossed Tesla off their shopping lists due to Musk’s sanity. > > While an electric car isn’t in my immediate future purchases, should it be, I won’t be getting a Tesla. I had a deposit down on a Tesla Model Y. I got my $$ back when it first started to become apparent that Elon’s cheese was slipping off his cracker. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9401 "2024-04-02T22:07:37Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > but I’m reading reports that the “PUSSY IN BIO” bots that seem to randomly comment on tweets Whats wrong with that? I see posters like SteveMB and EddyTeddyFreddy comment on this board all the time while flagrantly displaying their pussies to one and all. I have no problem with that one bit, in fact I just clicked on their profiles to get a really good view. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9402 "2024-04-02T22:10:42Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > That’s a problem, but if spambots are posting it in the replies of, say, the National Weather Service or UNICEF, it’s gonna be even uglier. Yes, it sounds to me like an escalation on top of an earlier problem they were already unable to deal with and unwilling to devote resources to. So yeah, it’s gonna be uglier. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9403 "2024-04-02T22:41:44Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > > [@Gyrate](#): > > > > You are Red Green and I claim my five pounds. > > Yes, that is so Red Green. I’m sorry I don’t get the reference? I tried googling “Red Green” but nothing I saw looked relevant. > [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Great Pumpkinhead I am so stealing this. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9404 "2024-04-02T22:42:53Z")
> [@Jihi](#): > > I’m sorry I don’t get the reference? I tried googling “Red Green” but nothing I saw looked relevant. > **[The Red Green Show](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Red_Green_Show)** > > The Red Green Show is a half-hour Canadian television comedy program that aired on various channels in Canada from April 4, 1991 until April 7, 2006. During its fifteen seasons, it had six network homes, but its longest run was with its final network, CBC Television. It is a cross between a sitcom and a sketch comedy and based on various outdoor shows and 'Do It Yourself' television series. On U.S. broadcast stations, the series aired on more than 100 American PBS affiliates at its peak. > Rer... I live in the Pacific Northwest so always got a lot of Canadian TV growing up, and Red Green is definitely one I enjoyed. Read this bit of the synopsis from that article: > The title character, Red Green (Steve Smith), is a married, middle-aged man who considers himself a proficient handyman, while others do not. Just with that bit of info I think you can guess how it relates. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9405 "2024-04-02T22:46:49Z")
And [duct tape](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY7nx5Z6Kzo) featured prominently in many of his “projects”. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9406 "2024-04-02T22:49:45Z")
Here is Red Green in a “tactical raincoat”: [![](http://classicredgreen.weebly.com/uploads/2/8/3/2/2832377/7324273_orig.jpg) ](http://classicredgreen.weebly.com/uploads/2/8/3/2/2832377/7324273_orig.jpg) It was made with a couple of tablecloths and a glue gun. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9407 "2024-04-02T22:52:07Z")
Ah, okay. I’m almost certain I’ve heard of that show but I’ve never actually seen it. 15 years? That’s a long time. Might have to check it out. Thanks a bunch! Now back to your regularly scheduled Elmo bashing… ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9408 "2024-04-02T23:28:24Z")
I vaguely recall an old comic featuring Uncle Scrooge and his nephews raising a ship using ping-pong balls. Surely one could use this technique to raise a 40,000 ton piece of steel, even though the bigger cranes can only handle one-quarter of this amount? You can send my cheque for this brilliant idea to Paprika, c/o Cecil Adams… ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9409 "2024-04-02T23:35:14Z")
Keep your stick on the ice. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9410 "2024-04-03T00:16:48Z")
I’m a man and I can change if I have to I guess ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9411 "2024-04-03T00:32:53Z")
(A) Mythbusters demonstrated this technique works on a sunken ship. > **[Ping Pong Salvage Myth](https://mythbusters.fandom.com/wiki/Ping_Pong_Salvage_Myth)** > > Adam and Jamie explore the possibility of raising a ship with ping-pong balls, originally conceived in the 1949 Donald Duck story The Sunken Yacht by Carl Barks. The Myth - Ping-pong balls can be used to raise a sunken ship. Verdict - Plausible Notes... But (B) we’re not talking about a ship; we’re talking about open structures consisting of steel girders with no “hold” to contain the ping pong balls. If floatation was the desired solution, there are many better standard tools than an ad-hoc like air-filled game balls. > **[Marine salvage | Refloating](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_salvage#Refloating)** > > It is usually preferable to refloat a vessel so that it can be taken to a suitable venue for repair or scrapping, but this is not always reasonably practicable. > There are some basic aspects to refloating a stranded ship: Its position must be stabilized to avoid any further damage from the ground. Ground reactions must then be reduced to a level where the vessel can be moved off of the ground without any additional scratches. Then, the vessel is pulled off and moved into deeper water.: Ch. 8  > St... The correct answer has already been brought to the worksite: salvage cranes. > **[As cranes arrive at Baltimore bridge collapse site, governor describes...](https://apnews.com/article/baltimore-key-bridge-collapse-03-29-2024-7d27a5c561f9f3359935a56139623108)** > > A crane that can lift 1,000 tons has appeared near the site of a collapsed highway bridge in Baltimore as crews prepare to begin clearing wreckage. Not to be too nasty, but your suggestion sounds like something Elmo would propose. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9412 "2024-04-03T00:53:37Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > Not to be too nasty, but your suggestion sounds like something Elmo would propose. I could be wrong but I interpreted that post as sarcasm. Dr. Paprika even points out why that suggestion wouldn’t work in his post. When I posted about using giant pontoons that of course wasn’t meant seriously. It was more in the sense of “oh Elmo wants to throw out more terrible ideas and opine on subjects he has no knowledge of? I can top that!” ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9413 "2024-04-03T00:56:57Z")
Got the Bloomberg Evening Briefing email tonight, and the first story was headlined “Musk’s brand problem”: > Wall Street analysts were second-guessing their models just as Tesla’s first quarter came to a close. One after another reduced their estimate for vehicle deliveries. But it turns out they didn’t cut their numbers by nearly enough, because on Tuesday the electric carmaker led by its famously voluble CEO [whiffed](https://link.mail.bloombergbusiness.com/click/34905765.1364963/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmxvb21iZXJnLmNvbS9uZXdzL2FydGljbGVzLzIwMjQtMDQtMDIvdGVzbGEtc2FsZXMtbWlzcy1pbi1maXJzdC15ZWFyLW92ZXIteWVhci1kcm9wLXNpbmNlLXBhbmRlbWljP2NtcGlkPUJCRDA0MDIyNF9CSVomdXRtX21lZGl1bT1lbWFpbCZ1dG1fc291cmNlPW5ld3NsZXR0ZXImdXRtX3Rlcm09MjQwNDAyJnV0bV9jYW1wYWlnbj1ibG9vbWJlcmdkYWlseQ/64ee9701a5ddc61ea40f1490B8975b6b1) on Bloomberg’s average sales estimate by the most ever. Tesla’s shares fell 4.9%, extending their 2024 slide to a tremendous 33%, the second-worst showing in the S&P 500 Index. It wasn’t a total surprise, though, as red flags were flying for some time. Tesla had warned its rate of growth would be “[notably lower](https://link.mail.bloombergbusiness.com/click/34905765.1364963/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmxvb21iZXJnLmNvbS9uZXdzL2FydGljbGVzLzIwMjQtMDEtMjQvdGVzbGEtc2F5cy1ncm93dGgtcmF0ZS10by1zbG93LWluLTIwMjQtcmVwb3J0cy1lYXJuaW5ncy1taXNzP2NtcGlkPUJCRDA0MDIyNF9CSVomdXRtX21lZGl1bT1lbWFpbCZ1dG1fc291cmNlPW5ld3NsZXR0ZXImdXRtX3Rlcm09MjQwNDAyJnV0bV9jYW1wYWlnbj1ibG9vbWJlcmdkYWlseQ/64ee9701a5ddc61ea40f1490B7b382f9d)” and the company did face multiple [disruptions](https://link.mail.bloombergbusiness.com/click/34905765.1364963/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmxvb21iZXJnLmNvbS9uZXdzL2FydGljbGVzLzIwMjQtMDMtMDYvdGVzbGEtcy1nZXJtYW4tcGxhbnQtcmVtYWlucy1oYWx0ZWQtaW4tZnJlc2gtYmxvdy10by1vdXRsb29rP2NtcGlkPUJCRDA0MDIyNF9CSVomdXRtX21lZGl1bT1lbWFpbCZ1dG1fc291cmNlPW5ld3NsZXR0ZXImdXRtX3Rlcm09MjQwNDAyJnV0bV9jYW1wYWlnbj1ibG9vbWJlcmdkYWlseQ/64ee9701a5ddc61ea40f1490B4adec3e6) at its plant outside Berlin. But still, there’s Elon Musk. His [inflammatory posting](https://link.mail.bloombergbusiness.com/click/34905765.1364963/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmxvb21iZXJnLmNvbS9uZXdzL2FydGljbGVzLzIwMjQtMDEtMTYvZWxvbi1tb3Zlcy1mdXJ0aGVyLXJpZ2h0LWhlcnR6LWRpdGNoZXMtdGVzbGE_Y21waWQ9QkJEMDQwMjI0X0JJWiZ1dG1fbWVkaXVtPWVtYWlsJnV0bV9zb3VyY2U9bmV3c2xldHRlciZ1dG1fdGVybT0yNDA0MDImdXRtX2NhbXBhaWduPWJsb29tYmVyZ2RhaWx5/64ee9701a5ddc61ea40f1490Bf5dd09c5) of far-right conspiracy theories (among other things) has turned off prospective buyers for whom a Tesla was once an aspirational purchase. “Is Elon’s brand [damaging Tesla sales](https://link.mail.bloombergbusiness.com/click/34905765.1364963/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmxvb21iZXJnLmNvbS9ncmFwaGljcy8yMDIzLXRlc2xhLXN1cnZleS9lbG9uLW11c2stYnJhbmQtYW5hbHlzaXMvP2NtcGlkPUJCRDA0MDIyNF9CSVomdXRtX21lZGl1bT1lbWFpbCZ1dG1fc291cmNlPW5ld3NsZXR0ZXImdXRtX3Rlcm09MjQwNDAyJnV0bV9jYW1wYWlnbj1ibG9vbWJlcmdkYWlseQ/64ee9701a5ddc61ea40f1490Be956c1db) in the US?” asked Gene Munster, managing partner of Deepwater Asset Management. “It’s directionally a negative.” _—[David E. Rovella](https://link.mail.bloombergbusiness.com/click/34905765.1364963/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmxvb21iZXJnLmNvbS9hdXRob3JzL0FFaXZlTnIybTNrL2RhdmlkLXJvdmVsbGE_c3JlZj1mU09mM09sUA/64ee9701a5ddc61ea40f1490B6a08c0fd)_ ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9414 "2024-04-03T00:59:15Z")
> [@Jihi](#): > > I could be wrong but I interpreted that post as sarcasm. Dr. Paprika even points out why that suggestion wouldn’t work in his post. 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️ 🤦‍♂️ Apparently my Poe’s Law detector really needs calibrating. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2024, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9415 "2024-04-03T01:33:42Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > “It’s directionally a negative.” I mean sure, that’s one very careful way to put it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=468) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=470)