# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 485
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9716 "2024-06-11T00:29:17Z")
…We have special hats made of foil that we will hand out in the lobby. For now this is voluntary but we are exploring whether to make this mandatory in the future. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9717 "2024-06-11T01:14:37Z")
So wait… did Elon Musk just announce how trivially easy it would be to hack any of his companies using a common device that a huge number of people have? ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9718 "2024-06-11T04:40:35Z")
JFC, the amount of schizophrenia Elmo has with AI is enough to cause whiplash. AI development is a threat to mankind and must be stopped! Look at my Anti-Woke AI guys! Shit, Grok isn’t fighting the Woke Mind-Virus, it’s endorsing diversity! OpenAI is a terrifying security risk! A couple of things he might want to know: > **[Elon Musk's Grok AI Chatbot Has Weakest Security, While Meta's Llama Stands...](https://decrypt.co/225121/ai-chatbot-security-jailbreaks-grok-chatgpt-gemini)** > > A new study exposes the vulnerabilities of popular AI chatbots to jailbreaking techniques, and offers recommendations for developers to secure their language models. Oops! > **[Elon Musk's xAI accused of using OpenAI code for training Grok chatbot](https://www.livemint.com/ai/artificial-intelligence/did-elon-musk-use-openai-chatgpt-code-to-train-grok-chatbot-employee-says-accidentally-picked-up-some-11702177584370.html)** > > Elon Musk's xAI has been accused of using OpenAI code for training the company's Grok AI chatbot. The issue came to the fore after Grok declined to reply to a question citing OpenAI policy. > **[Elon Musk’s new AI bot, Grok, causes stir by citing OpenAI usage policy](https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/12/elon-musks-ai-bot-grok-speaks-as-if-made-by-openai-in-some-tests-causing-a-stir/)** > > Some experts think xAI used OpenAI model outputs to fine-tune Grok. Uh-oh, double oops! ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9719 "2024-06-11T06:46:03Z")
The thieves of intellectual property have been thieved from? The game is afoot! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9720 "2024-06-11T07:31:14Z")
I’m not really on the side of the AI bros. But I’m definitely on the opposite side of anybody trying to “protect IP”. Writers should get paid, musicians should get paid. Artists should get paid. The cottage industry leaching of their creativity, not so much. Mickey should have been public domain in the ‘80’s. All creativity is standing on the shoulders of our predecessors, to claim AI can’t do the same thing as every human being ever has done because reasons is just…. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9721 "2024-06-11T07:35:44Z")
> [@The\_Librarian](#): > > All creativity is standing on the shoulders of our predecessors, to claim AI can’t do the same thing as every human being ever has done because reasons is just… To quote a Tweet I saw recently; AI accidentally proved to me the existence of the soul by showing me what art looks like without it. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9722 "2024-06-11T07:45:32Z")
Not claiming AI is making good art. Just saying that I think AI should be allowed to “learn” from existing work. It is what we all do. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9723 "2024-06-11T07:47:28Z")
AI cannot “learn” in the way a human can, nor can it imagine, innovate, emote, or do any of the other things that go into making art. All it can do is copy what it’s seen before. And when what it’s copying is real art by human artists who deserve to get paid for their work, then it’s theft. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9724 "2024-06-11T08:02:30Z")
I’m really glad you explained why I put learn in quotes. 😉 I think it is putting up unnecessary roadblocks to real creativity to hold AI to some impossible standards for IP theft. (Nevermind that most royalties hardly go to the people who do the actual work) Your argument ignores that all humans do almost the exact same thing when creating stuff, we mix and match impressions we got from all we see. If you follow your argument to its extremes we shouldn’t be allowed to draw stuff in perspective because some dude somewhere in the dark ages invented that. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9725 "2024-06-11T14:56:09Z")
That way of putting it generous to Musk. If he doesn’t trust Apple devices running AI at the OS level, then he shouldn’t trust Apple running _any_ OS code. It’s all closed source, after all. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9726 "2024-06-11T21:57:02Z")
Twitter is now rolling out a “Stop people from calling Elmo out when he likes Neo-Nazi posts” feature. [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GP0rl2pWoAAX7vN?format=jpg&name=medium) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GP0rl2pWoAAX7vN?format=jpg&name=medium) ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9727 "2024-06-11T22:13:20Z")
Only slightly related, but now that I’m a Community Notes editor, I can tell you that perhaps as many as a third of his tweets have a proposed note attached to them. But there’s some kind of algorithm that’s keeping them from being approved. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9728 "2024-06-12T00:07:09Z")
Mr. Free Speech Absolutist has now nuked Apple’s account. > ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9729 "2024-06-12T02:24:20Z")
> > > Engineering @XEng ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9730 "2024-06-12T03:38:39Z")
You have to cut some slack for super geniuses like Elmo. It’s a difficult balancing act between free speech absolutism, saving mankind from AI and creating his own AI using the same AI he’s having a ketamine freakout about Apple for. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9731 "2024-06-12T04:02:41Z")
Any WSJ subscribers feel like sharing a gift link for their new expose about Elmo sexually preying on his employees? [https://www.wsj.com/business/elon-musk-spacex-employee-relationships-8bca2806](https://www.wsj.com/business/elon-musk-spacex-employee-relationships-8bca2806) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9732 "2024-06-12T05:51:14Z")
> ---
**Author:** ![epbrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@epbrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9733 "2024-06-12T07:12:42Z")
I better not ever hear this knucklehead complain about laziness. He can’t be bothered to switch to one of his fake accounts for this crap? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9734 "2024-06-12T11:52:08Z")
The whole reason they are doing it is so that Elmo can “like” a collage of images of [Misa from _Death Note_](https://deathnote.fandom.com/wiki/Misa_Amane)? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9735 "2024-06-12T12:06:45Z")
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