# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 491
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2024, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9836 "2024-07-06T22:29:57Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Just a reminder that the above quote is from Elon Musk, not me. I don’t think anyone meant to imply otherwise; hence why the replies were directed toward Musk and not you. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9837 "2024-07-07T19:46:17Z")
The penalty for traitors? Hmmm, sometimes Musk is a “pox a’ both your houses” type of guy, but I never thought he’d be so in favor of a harsh penalty for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9838 "2024-07-12T10:07:25Z")
> **[Elon Musk calls for “criminal prosecution” of X ad boycott perpetrators](https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/07/elon-musk-calls-for-criminal-prosecution-of-x-ad-boycott-perpetrators/)** > > Congress accused advertisers group of colluding to tank X's revenue. I’m starting to suspect that this titan of industry might not actually be so smart after all. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9839 "2024-07-12T11:31:42Z")
That’s pretty funny. I’m interested if any of our history / finance buffs are aware of any previous lawsuit or criminal prosecution, even if unsuccessful, where an antitrust accusation was directed at a group of consumers. Even a case that was kind of like this, if you squinted real hard. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9840 "2024-07-12T11:48:30Z")
Evidently “free speech absolutism” means everyone is absolutely required to speak freely on X. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9841 "2024-07-12T11:57:45Z")
Hell, if ad space on Twitter was free, I’m sure some of them would have stayed. He’s advertising free speech, so he should give them free speech ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9842 "2024-07-12T16:29:56Z")
It’s not socialism, its Capitalism Plus. Like all right-thinking people, we know that socialism is the worst of the worst of all evils, worse than cannibalism. So, when we force companies to advertise on Twitter, it’s not socialism, its Capitalism Plus. You can tell the Plus by the gold checkmark next to your Twitter account! The gold checkmark stands for quality, free speech absolutism, white immigrants who already speak English and all things truly American. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9843 "2024-07-12T19:45:18Z")
The EU is preparing to issue massive fines to Twitter for deceptive business practices. [https://apnews.com/article/x-twitter-european-union-musk-dsa-645e9a224cd82ed1bc3cde9156215293](https://apnews.com/article/x-twitter-european-union-musk-dsa-645e9a224cd82ed1bc3cde9156215293) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9844 "2024-07-12T23:08:21Z")
From that article: > An email request for comment to X resulted in an automated response that said “Busy now, please check back later.” Its main spokesman reportedly left the company in June. I’m sure that person was like, “Fuck this, nobody should put up with this.” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9845 "2024-07-13T05:34:58Z")
I now give you, labeled “FOR ELON MUSK’S EYES ONLY”, a list of people that Trump wants Twitter DMs for so he can have them thrown in gulag. > ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9846 "2024-07-13T06:04:31Z")
I don’t click on Twitter links on general principle, but I’ll give you a chance to persuade me to. Are there follow-up posts that indicate how this guy acquired that list? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9847 "2024-07-13T06:39:50Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Are there follow-up posts that indicate how this guy acquired that list? Apparently, Trump’s “Secretary of Retaliation” had been circulating this list amongst the Constitutional Sheriffs Association, a group of batshit crazy red state county sheriffs who believe themselves to be the true supreme law of the land, and even they thought this was too batshit for them to touch with a ten-foot pole. > **[Raskin Sounds the Alarm on Trump’s Self-Declared ‘Secretary of Retribution’](https://www.thedailybeast.com/rep-jamie-raskin-sounds-the-alarm-on-trumps-self-declared-secretary-of-retribution)** > > Ivan Raiklin, a former U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency employee, has reportedly compiled a “Deep State target list” of 350 people he wants to see arrested. > **[Trump Ally Exposed for Horrific Hit List of Political Enemies](https://newrepublic.com/post/183652/trump-ally-exposed-horrific-hit-list-political-enemies)** > > Donald Trump’s self-proclaimed “secretary of retribution” is even more bloodthirsty than the former president. > [@](#): > > Conservative political activist Ivan Raiklin claims to have assembled a “Deep State target list” that includes high-ranking Democrats and Republicans, U.S. Capitol Police officers, officials at the FBI and other intelligence agencies, witnesses in Trump’s impeachment trials, and journalists at _The New York Times_ , CNN, _The Washington Post,_ and other news outlets. Their supposed crime? Being Trump’s political enemies. And Raiklin views himself as justice incarnate. > > Those arrests would be carried out by “constitutional sheriffs,” specifically a right-wing anti-government group called the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association. Those sheriffs would then deputize the 75,000 veterans Raiklin claims were dismissed from the military for refusing to comply with Covid-19 vaccine mandates, forming a rogue army intent on revenge. > > The response was underwhelming, according to Raw Story. Despite being fairly sympathetic to Raiklin, officers warned that his plot was illegal, and it would be unlikely that prosecutors would ever press charges. > > Even Sheriff Dar Leaf, who gained notoriety among the far right for suggesting that the group that attempted to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer was simply attempting to make a citizen’s arrest, felt that Raiklin’s plan went too far. And he’s not being shy about it, either; > > ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9848 "2024-07-13T16:58:24Z")
Well, Raw Story doesn’t need to worry about running that article, they’re already slated for the gulag. Along with quite a few other news organizations. > POLITICO > ABC > NBC > MSNBC > WASHINGTON POST > NEW YORK TIMES > REUTERS > BUZZ FEED > AXIOS > THE ATLANTIC > AMERICAN OVERSIGHT > RAW STORY > CBS News > THE FEDERALIST Two that immediately piqued my interest are Reuters and The Federalist. Reuters because what’s next, the BBC? It isn’t even an American news organization. The Federalist because it’s the crazies already eating their own. I mean one of the podcasts currently on their frontpage is titled “Inside the DC ‘Gulag’ with J6 Prisoners Tim Hale” ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9849 "2024-07-13T17:37:02Z")
And I spotted Jared Kushner on the list. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9850 "2024-07-13T18:34:10Z")
Seems a visit by the FBI or Secret Service is in order or may have already happened. On the other hand, the dude may have just been added to a loooong list of folks that need a good talkin’ to. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9851 "2024-07-13T21:27:16Z")
Or a good course of lithium. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9852 "2024-07-13T23:30:36Z")
Following hard on the heels of the shooting at the Pennsylvania rally Elon Musk declares his endorsement of Trump. > ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9853 "2024-07-13T23:32:18Z")
Musk’s endorsement (along with his track record since buying ~~Twitter~~ X) is the most comforting thing I’ve seen in American politics this summer. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9854 "2024-07-13T23:34:19Z")
Sure hope you’re right! ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9855 "2024-07-13T23:35:38Z")
Why would anyone support him now? I prefer Presidents who don’t get shot. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=490) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=492)