# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 495
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9916 "2024-07-26T13:27:38Z")
They will teach Grok to say Elon is an Asshole if they use mine. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9917 "2024-07-26T13:38:40Z")
They can have my screen name, too (“Elon Musk is a big dumb shit”). ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9918 "2024-07-26T14:03:08Z")
This is a perfect opportunity to tweet massive amonuts of chatbot generated text and graphics, including Grok-generated data. Why? [AI models fed AI-generated data quickly spew nonsense (nature.com)](https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-02420-7) > Training [artificial intelligence](https://www.nature.com/subjects/machine-learning) (AI) models on AI-generated text quickly leads to the models churning out nonsense, a study has found. And it leads to this in graphic rendering. 😆 [![](https://media.nature.com/w1248/magazine-assets/d41586-024-02420-7/d41586-024-02420-7_27382064.jpg?as=webp) ](https://media.nature.com/w1248/magazine-assets/d41586-024-02420-7/d41586-024-02420-7_27382064.jpg?as=webp) _The increasingly distorted images produced by an artificial-intelligence model that is trained on data generated by a previous version of the model. Credit: M. Boháček & H. Farid arXiv (CC BY 4.0)_ ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9919 "2024-07-26T14:04:58Z")
> [@peccavi](#): > > > Training [artificial intelligence](https://www.nature.com/subjects/machine-learning) (AI) models on AI-generated text quickly leads to the models churning out nonsense, a study has found. > > And it leads to this in graphic rendering. 😆 Which suggests a certain presidential candidate in love with his own voice must listen / watch lots of recordings of himself speaking. ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9920 "2024-07-26T14:21:40Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Which suggests a certain presidential candidate in love with his own voice must listen / watch lots of recordings of himself speaking It might be even better to feed it transcripts of Trump’s speeches. Imagine if a significant number of X users start doing this. (Apologies to Arlo Guthrie) _just **log** in and **tweet** “ **Elmo, Here’s what Trump said today.** ”. And **log** out. You know, if_ _one person, just one person does it they may think he’s really sick and_ _they won’t take him. And if two people, two people do it, in harmony,_ _they may think they’re both f####ts and they won’t take either of them._ _And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people **logging in** **tweeting a Trump speech and logging out** _. They may think it’s an\* _organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day, I said_ _fifty people a day **logging** in **tweeting a Trump speech** and_ _ **logging out**. And friends they may thinks it’s a movement._ \*_And that’s what it is, the Alice’s Restaurant Anti-Massacre Movement, and_ _all you got to do to join is **tweet it the next time Trump speaks** _ ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9921 "2024-07-26T14:37:11Z")
> [@peccavi](#): > > > Training [artificial intelligence](https://www.nature.com/subjects/machine-learning) (AI) models on AI-generated text quickly leads to the models churning out nonsense, a study has found. > > And it leads to this in graphic rendering. 😆 And some people say AI can’t make art. That’s a joke, but there’s some truth to it. Those images in the final column show creativity that most humans don’t have. ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9922 "2024-07-26T14:46:01Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > Those images in the final column show creativity that most humans don’t have. Most _ **sane** _ humans ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9923 "2024-07-26T14:54:03Z")
Yeah, it looks remarkably like the final images we had in our psychology textbook showing how someone’s art changed as their schizophrenia became more severe. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9924 "2024-07-26T14:57:24Z")
> [@peccavi](#): > > Most _ **sane** _ humans Art Brut, AI style ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9925 "2024-07-26T15:09:20Z")
Eh - Louis Wain did it better. [![](https://trauma.blog.yorku.ca/files/2018/02/Wain_cats_6.jpg) ](https://trauma.blog.yorku.ca/files/2018/02/Wain_cats_6.jpg) Then again, he wasn’t “sane”. ---
**Author:** ![FluffyBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecb155/32.png) [@FluffyBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FluffyBob)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9926 "2024-07-26T15:35:16Z")
Ir certainly evokes Mondrian’s extrapolation of abstract rectangular forms from the branch structure of trees. ---
**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9927 "2024-07-26T15:55:07Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > [from the tweet] > You can disable this using the web but it’s hidden. You can’t disable using the mobile app Some EU regulator is already salivating over all the brand new fines they can impose. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9928 "2024-07-26T16:06:04Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Am I reading the dope or am I reading r/MurderedByWords? Because _goddamn…_ I believe it was indeed posted there or on r/CleverComebacks. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9929 "2024-07-26T16:16:06Z")
I’m keeping mine, as I’d effectively be training Grok to argue against Republican and right wing Christian talking points. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9930 "2024-07-26T16:24:30Z")
My brother is very creative. He’s also a drug addict with schizoaffective disorder. He’s a musician though (or I should say he was for a while). Now that I think of it, I bet he’d get along great with Elon. They treat women about the same way. And my brother was just released from prison so they could totally hang out. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9931 "2024-07-26T16:32:10Z")
Yeah, that was the series of images I remember. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9932 "2024-07-26T16:40:36Z")
I’m kind of surprised that that ended up as a nature paper. Its a fairly obvious experiment that pretty much anyone with a basic understanding of how to run the canned software could do and produced a result that anyone with an understanding of computer modeling would have expected. But good for them and their CV I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9933 "2024-07-26T16:44:40Z")
For the record, it’s a myth that the series represents Wain’s mental deterioration. He was just experimenting. They weren’t even necessarily done in that order. Dr Walter Maclay found them in a shop in 1939 and ordered them that way to support his narrative. Bad scientist! No biscuit for you! Ahem. Anyway - Elmo’s mental deterioration is more clearly on display. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2024, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9934 "2024-07-26T16:46:59Z")
Yeah, I read the Wiki article on him after you mentioned his name. The assertion is not backed up by the evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2024, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/9935 "2024-07-27T19:41:28Z")
Elmo is withholding Grimes’ kids’ passports during her scheduled custody time and is refusing to let their grandmother and great-grandmother (who is in palliative care) see them. Thread below. > Also, Grimes tweeted her support for Elmo’s trans daughter and Elmo responded by unfollowing her. > [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=494) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=496)