# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1141 "2022-11-17T01:54:10Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> Do a search in the search bar for “sex” at Twitter:
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> [https://twitter.com/search?q=sex&src=typed\_query](https://twitter.com/search?q=sex&src=typed_query)
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> Any thoughts on the results?

Well, my top hit was someone named “Ninja Sex Party” offering songs about disks and unicorns. So, basically your standard internet?

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**Author:** ![Mr.E](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.e/32/8932_2.png) [@Mr.E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.E)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1142 "2022-11-17T03:07:30Z")

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If you think this proves Musk’s ownership of Twitter has opened the doors to all sorts of depravity, I don’t think this is the case. Wildly explicit sexual content has always been on Twitter and I don’t think it’s ever been against their terms of service. Twitter hasn’t had to deal with the bullying that forced Tumblr to ban pornography because it’s big enough that the app store owners don’t want to pick a fight.

Now maybe it’s true that CSA and the like are now easier to find on Twitter thanks to the reduction in moderation, but I really don’t recommend you go looking for it or posting links to it here.

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**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1143 "2022-11-17T05:09:11Z")

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> [@Mr.E](#):
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> Twitter has opened the doors to all sorts of depravity

Famously, Ted Cruz accidentally clicked like on a video of incest porn on Twitter on the anniversary of 9/11. It just goes to show that there really is no limit to the depravity that Twitter will allow Ted Cruz to still be on the platform.

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**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1144 "2022-11-17T09:09:22Z")

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[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhwP2LUXEAE-HMc?format=png&name=small) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhwP2LUXEAE-HMc?format=png&name=small)

> <https://twitter.com/Nash076/status/1593166723720839168>

Apartheid Clyde eventually deleted this tweet after he realized he’d grabbed the bullhorn instead of the dog whistle.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1145 "2022-11-17T09:43:39Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> If you find that job posting, can you pass it along? Asking for a friend.

I know you’re joking but I suspect the vast majority of things that job would involve looking at are less “sexy” and more “soul-scarring”. Particularly if child porn is involved.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1146 "2022-11-17T13:32:24Z")

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I have a friend who worked for a content delivery system company, and her job for a while was watching porn. The porn provider was a client, and her employer had human beings checking that client content streamed smoothly, and the clients whose performance she was monitoring delivered porn.

She didn’t enjoy it, but didn’t find it soul scaring. I suppose it was a legitimate commercial porn company, not random tweets.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1147 "2022-11-17T13:36:01Z")

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> So we surveyed 442 Twitter employees remaining at the company and asked them: Do you believe Twitter will succeed under Elon Musk’s management? Eighty-nine percent said “no,” 11% said “yes.”
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> …We also asked after the layoffs if they’d recommend Twitter as a workplace to their friends and family — 2% said “agree” or “strongly agree.”
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> One percent of respondents believed that employees had been treated “with dignity and empathy during the layoffs,” and 63% believed that “steps could have been taken” to avoid mass firings, including business restructures or leadership decisions.

> **[89% of surveyed Twitter employees say the company will fail under Musk](https://restofworld.org/2022/twitter-will-fail-under-musk/)**
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> Sunguk Moon, CEO and co-founder of the anonymous workplace forum Blind, reveals how workers at Twitter and Meta really feel.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1148 "2022-11-17T13:36:29Z")

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> [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> Anyone with an H1B will likely stay on as it is harder for them to switch jobs

Ah, good old green card slaves. (People slaving away in the hopes of earning a green card, that is.) I used to work for an employer that had some of them. Our green card slaves really did put in more hours than the rest of us. It was a decent place to work, though. We had a few who did earn their green card, left to try life at a competitor, and returned.

Somehow, i doubt that’s how it’s going to play out at Twitter.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1149 "2022-11-17T13:37:40Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> but didn’t find it soul scaring

I don’t have one at hand, but there are articles out there about content moderators suffering from PTSD from having to watch really horrible stuff: violence, murder, mayhem, scatological stuff, physical abuse, child abuse, gore. Think snuff films.

And they were often independent contractors so weren’t eligible for mental health care coverage.

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**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1150 "2022-11-17T13:41:39Z")

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Oh, I’m sure it far worse for content moderators than for people who are evaluating the streaming quality of stuff that someone else has already moderated and curated. The sounds like a horrible job.

(I’ve run into ugly stuff just moderating some tame little chat sites. But it’s a less-than-once-a-year event for this kind of moderating.)

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**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1151 "2022-11-17T14:15:24Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> there are articles out there about content moderators suffering from PTSD from having to watch really horrible stuff

I’ve seen these too. Apparently Facebook content screeners have it the worst. Sounds like absolute hell on earth.

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1152 "2022-11-17T14:16:11Z")

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I’ve heard its real, real bad at reddit, too.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1153 "2022-11-17T15:40:58Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I know you’re joking but I suspect the vast majority of things that job would involve looking at are less “sexy” and more “soul-scarring”. Particularly if child porn is involved.

I was, and I’m sure it is a horrible job. Child porn, beheading videos, and all sorts of depravity. I stay away from any parts of the web that show these sorts of things. I don’t like watching people get murdered so stay away from police shooting videos. I don’t need to add nightmare material to my head. I still vividly remember things that that taught me that lesson years ago.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1154 "2022-11-17T19:23:50Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> Ah, good old green card slaves. (People slaving away in the hopes of earning a green card, that is.)

Worse than that, if a H1B holder loses their job, they have 60 days to find a new job (and hopefully one that will help with their intent to immigrate), somehow change to a different visa status, or get out of the country.

It essentially gives the tech industry carte blanche to make extreme demands of such employees, knowing those employees would otherwise face deportation.

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**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1155 "2022-11-17T19:38:39Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> > [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> > So, has Twitter always been like this and I missed it, or did Musk break another content moderation feature
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> I think a bit of both. Twitter has a lot of porn (mostly users posting themselves nude or doing sexy things, but people do repost commercial clips), but there’s a preference in your profile labeled “Display media that may contain sensitive content” which is unchecked by default. If unchecked you shouldn’t see porn, but stuff sneaks through sometimes. It sounds like whoever was classifying stuff as porn was shown the door.

It appears that have checked the preference for allowing sensitive contents, although I don’t remember specifically changing it in preferences. There were many times when, while reading a thread, I clicked the past the sensitive content warning, but that’s because I wanted to see mean tweets that contained curse words, not graphic close-ups of double penetration.

And since my account is suspended, I can’t change the preference.

What I found unusual about yesterday wasn’t so much that a search on #sex turned up hard core porn, but that it appeared on my trend line.

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**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1156 "2022-11-17T19:43:16Z")

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> [@MandaJo](#):
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> I’ve heard its real, real bad at reddit, too.

Not like what I saw yesterday. The porn is all in NSFW forums that are specifically cataloged as being NSFW, in the regular forums it seems like they put the NSFW tag (which blurs the preview) even on bathing suit pics and pics that show deep cleavage.

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**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1157 "2022-11-17T19:47:47Z")

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No, I mean the people that have to look at stuff and make calls about moderation. Back in the day, at least, Reddit was real committed to letting people go right up to the line and push really awful stuff. So the “edge cases” that got sent to content moderators was awful. Lots of “is it CP?”

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**Post date:** [November 17, 2022, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1158 "2022-11-17T19:48:46Z")

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Ahhh, I get it.

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I just want all this hubbub about Twitter to die down, or I need to ignore it.

Last night I had a near nightmare where I was back at my old company, and some ultimatum similar to Musk’s was made, and I was all upset.

Then, I remembered I’d been retired, comfortably enough, for ten years. Not going back either. No way. No how.

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> > [@puzzlegal](#):
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> > Ah, good old green card slaves. (People slaving away in the hopes of earning a green card, that is.)
> 
> Worse than that, if a H1B holder loses their job, they have 60 days to find a new job (and hopefully one that will help with their intent to immigrate), somehow change to a different visa status, or get out of the country.
> 
> It essentially gives the tech industry carte blanche to make extreme demands of such employees, knowing those employees would otherwise face deportation.

Yes, that’s why we joked about their “slave” status. They are completely dependent of their employer, and they have all kinds of issues if they lose their jobs.

Like most such jokes, there was an uncomfortable truth behind it. H1B visa holders are very vulnerable to a bad employer.

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