# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1421 "2022-11-21T13:54:36Z")

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The image Musk posted is floating around the web. Here’s a link to one.

```auto
i.imgur.com/OXp37RQ.png
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I took it as representing Trump trying to avoid the temptation of coming back to Twitter. In any case, it’s an inappropriate thing for a CEO to post.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1422 "2022-11-21T14:56:43Z")

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“Inappropriate for a Chief Executive” is both these men’s _brand_.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1423 "2022-11-21T15:52:19Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Elon is now just posting memes about wanting Trump to fuck him (very NSFW;)
> 
> [https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1594500655724609536](https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1594500655724609536)
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> Imagine being the world’s richest man and simping this hard for a failed wannabe dictator.

Imagine you’re on a marketing team, and having to explain to a room full of execs why you aren’t comfortable on the platform, using that as an example…

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1424 "2022-11-21T16:45:25Z")

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Well, I don’t think you’d have to do much explaining.

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**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1425 "2022-11-21T16:53:23Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> > [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> > For the most recent material, they have the “you can sign this out for an hour” approach, to argue that they’re an e-library, loaning out an e-version of a book.
> 
> That is the “official” stuff that staff has posted ([which in itself isn’t up there with permission of the copyright holders](https://www2.societyofauthors.org/2022/07/18/publishers-vs-internet-archive-huge-implications-for-us-copyright-law-and-piracy/)). But there are also the copies posted by individual users, which have no restrictions at all. For instance, there is an archive of the first 14 omnibus edition volumes of the English language translation of the manga _Urusei Yatsura_ [currently being published by Viz](https://www.viz.com/urusei-yatsura). That archive has been there since July 2021.

This “checkout” stuff is cosmetic (in response to real or imagined legal pressure?). I remember the Internet Archive having always insisted they were an e-library, and as such it was 100% the end user’s responsibility to ensure any use of copyrighted content fell under fair use guidelines.

However, in cases I personally know of, the stuff sent over to the Internet Archive to be digitized was indeed older stuff (think 100-year-old periodicals, books, and personal correspondence, all of historical importance). Also things like authors uploading copies of their own old video games. At any rate (AFAIK) they are not aiming to be a competitor of Library Genesis (whose only “secret” is that they are located in carefully chosen, non-US countries).

Better to discuss this in a separate thread, if necessary.

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**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1426 "2022-11-21T16:59:42Z")

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Many people have Twitter accounts, including journalists (who may keep twitter accounts as well as every other platform you have heard of and many you haven’t, in order to facilitate getting in touch with people. It does not indicate they endorse the platform) but if they need a quote the journalist will absolutely call the famous university professor (some of whom love seeing their name in the paper). How could they ask specific questions otherwise?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1427 "2022-11-21T17:00:20Z")

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> [@Red\_Wiggler](#):
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> This morning a bunch of tweets from some people with “anti-woke” views are being promoted on my feed. That’s new.

I’ve noticed an increasing amount of random posters being promoted for no apparent reason, and my wife said her Twitter feed seems to involve increasingly and unpleasantly explicit content (note that I did not say a word about algorithms to her…).

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1428 "2022-11-21T17:01:15Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Well, I don’t think you’d have to do much explaining.

I really just meant the awkwardness of displaying the image. 🙂

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1429 "2022-11-21T17:17:28Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> I really just meant the awkwardness of displaying the image.

I’ve been at my job for thirty years. If I posted something like that on slack there would be hell to pay.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1430 "2022-11-21T18:37:15Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I’ve noticed an increasing amount of random posters being promoted for no apparent reason, and my wife said her Twitter feed seems to involve increasingly and unpleasantly explicit content (note that I did not say a word about algorithms to her…).

Makes me think of the Original Star Trek episode where the great computer genius Dr. Daystrom (?) has finally invented a truly generally intelligent computer, modeled directly on the human brain. Which computer promptly goes murderously insane and needs to be subdued by Capt. Kirk & the usual heroes. At the end the deeply upset & nearly incoherent Daystrom is mourning the “death” of his wayward creation.

Kirk asks him whose brain he modeled it on. “Why my own, of course.” is the final sentence.

Perhaps Twitter’s algorithms have now fully modeled Musk’s brain and now embody mostly his thoughts. Perhaps with a _soupçon_ of Trump’s for extra randomness, viciousness, & salaciousness.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1431 "2022-11-21T18:49:43Z")

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> [@filmore](#):
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> The image Musk posted is floating around the web. Here’s a link to one.
> 
> ```auto
> i.imgur.com/OXp37RQ.png
> 
> ```

Ah, Milo Manara, of the [infamous Spider-Woman cover.](https://screenrant.com/marvel-controversy-spider-woman-cover-milo-manara-comics/) Classy.

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**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1432 "2022-11-21T19:42:45Z")

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Hubs still can’t sign up and is getting rather disgruntled at missing the fun.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1433 "2022-11-21T19:54:29Z")

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Well, that’s not what that image represents. It’s basically an image that is representing a test of resolve in the face of temptation.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1434 "2022-11-21T20:00:41Z")

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Can’t it be both, though? I agree that the thrust (heh) of the image is resolve in the face of temptation. However, as part of the tableau the woman’s posture is certainly one of “please, take me now, I want it.”

So if Trump is the monk and Elon is the woman, I guess he wants Trump to have sex with him?

I dunno, I thought the whole thing was puzzling and weird. TBH I’m not sure WHAT Elon was trying to say by posting it.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1435 "2022-11-21T20:02:00Z")

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Well, if Smapti’s interpretation is correct then Elon Musk needs some serious help!

Trump is the monk. The desire to use Twitter is what the woman represents. Staying faithful, to another platform, is the test of resolve.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1436 "2022-11-21T20:05:01Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> I can think of three possible reasons that the employees who failed to agree to Musk’s ultimatum still have access to internal systems, and none of them portend well for Twitter:
> 
> 1. Musk has once again changed his mind because of the sheer number of additional employees leaving.
> 2. As per speculation, the staff responsible for processing the sackings have been sacked, which has only happened before in a Monty Python movie.
> 3. Just sheer chaos, where no actions have been taken because no one – including Musk – has any plan or any idea what’s going on.

The Times article on this quoted a person as spending he entire day finding his manager so that he could resign. He finally did, and she resigned the next day. I suspect the cracks at Twitter that things are falling through are Grand Canyon size.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1437 "2022-11-21T20:10:46Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> So if Trump is the monk and Elon is the woman, I guess he wants Trump to have sex with him?

Maybe he’s inviting Trump to help him fuck up Twitter. 😃

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1438 "2022-11-21T20:30:49Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Trump is the monk. The desire to use Twitter is what the woman represents. Staying faithful, to another platform, is the test of resolve.

That sounds like the perfect decode. Nicely done.

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**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1439 "2022-11-21T21:20:39Z")

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> [@DPRK](#):
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> Many people have Twitter accounts, including journalists (who may keep twitter accounts as well as every other platform you have heard of and many you haven’t, in order to facilitate getting in touch with people. It does not indicate they endorse the platform) but if they need a quote the journalist will absolutely call the famous university professor (some of whom love seeing their name in the paper). How could they ask specific questions otherwise?

The verification system helps journalists connect. If you are a verified journalist, you can send a DM to someone you want to interview, and they know you are legit. If you have to email or call them, you may never reach them because your communication will get lost in spam.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1440 "2022-11-21T22:33:10Z")

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Yeah, that’s clearly (to me) what it means, but I’m just shocked at that kind of sexual imagery coming from the CEO of a company, though I suppose I shouldn’t be.

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