# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1521 "2022-11-24T01:17:53Z")

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There’s a platform called PlainSite that’s been a relentless critic of Musk and Tesla, and which has continually posted legal documents, texts, etc., mainly in aid of trying to prove that Musk is guilty of various forms of fraud.

They asked Penn about this, and surprisingly got an affirmative response.

[https://www.plainsite.org/documents/tbdmox/2019-email-from-the-university-of-pennsylvania-confirming-elon-musks-physics-degree/](https://www.plainsite.org/documents/tbdmox/2019-email-from-the-university-of-pennsylvania-confirming-elon-musks-physics-degree/)

So it’s clear that the physics degree was awarded, though there is still an open question why it took two years after he left. Musk has said there was some coursework he had to get recognized and it took a while to get around to it, but who knows.

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1522 "2022-11-24T01:20:24Z")

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I didn’t know that a B.A in Physics was a thing.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1523 "2022-11-24T01:24:28Z")

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Yes, and not uncommon. UMass awards it, as does Boston University.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1524 "2022-11-24T01:33:55Z")

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> [@Folly](#):
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> I didn’t know that a B.A in Physics was a thing.

Many liberal arts schools offer a Bachelor of Arts (B.A.) in Physics, and some schools offer both with the difference being that the B.A. tends to be a broader base of ‘classics’ while the B.S. is more technically focused. In neither case are they generally considered a terminal degree, as you will only have an introductory coverage of ‘modern’ physics (General Relativity, quantum mechanics) or any research concentrations like astrophysics, solid state physics, or plasma/high energy physics at the bachelor’s level. About the only thing a BS or BA in Physics qualifies you to do is teach high school or apply to graduate school.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1525 "2022-11-24T01:34:30Z")

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Nah, it strikes me more as sane but arrogant and flailing for excuses.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1526 "2022-11-24T01:40:12Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Does he have any evidence of them reaching out to advertisers and try to kill twitter?

He has something better. Rank, unfounded suspicion.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1527 "2022-11-24T02:38:08Z")

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…some local news:

> **[Elon Musk's Twitter takeover has disrupted the Christchurch Call – NZ needs...](https://theconversation.com/elon-musks-twitter-takeover-has-disrupted-the-christchurch-call-nz-needs-to-rethink-its-digital-strategy-195213?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=bylinetwitterbutton)**
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> Radical change at Twitter shows how quickly strategies and values can shift in Big Tech. New Zealand needs to be less reliant on overseas solutions for its own digital infrastructure plans.

> [@The Conversation](#):
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> At the end of September, the [government announced](https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/2018860941/christchurch-call-pushes-against-the-algorithms) it would partner with Microsoft, Twitter and the US government to develop technologies that could reveal how algorithms influence users’ political beliefs and potential actions.
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> The collaboration was a direct outcome of the [Christchurch Call](https://www.christchurchcall.com/), the initiative begun two years ago after the terrorist attacks on two mosques in the city. Its aim is to tackle the problem of online platforms acting as breeding grounds for extremist views and violence, threatening the democratic social fabric.
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> The entire team the New Zealand government was planning to work with disappeared. And it’s unlikely any work outlined in September will actually eventuate.

Thanks Elon.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1528 "2022-11-24T02:59:55Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> Thanks Elon.

On Elmo’s Twitter, hate speech and misinformation isn’t a bug, it’s a feature.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1529 "2022-11-24T03:13:45Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> So, Elon Musk had an undergraduate degree from Wharton in Physics and Economics. Got it. That’s what I said.

You’re really going to extensively moot [Joe Biden’s academic degrees](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-potus-biden-believe-that-hes-the-smartest-in-the-room/958330/21) and defend Musk’s “physics” degree?

**Joe lied about his double major!**

**Musk told the truth about his double major!** which I conveniently left out was a double major.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1530 "2022-11-24T21:35:43Z")

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…in latest news: as a result of his latest poll, Elon Musk has declared that from next week there will be an amnesty for practically all currently-banned accounts: in other words, next week the nazis come back.

Just checked the people following me on my account and the last 50 followers are all bots. Every single one. Some of the more prolific NZ posters are getting hundreds of new bot followers every hour. Increasing numbers of people I follow have either left or made their accounts private.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1531 "2022-11-24T21:43:35Z")

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Sounds like one botnet to rule them all.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1532 "2022-11-25T02:15:59Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> Elon Musk has declared that from next week there will be an amnesty for practically all currently-banned accounts:

More evidence he’s panicking.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1533 "2022-11-25T02:21:46Z")

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Someone’s code wasn’t good enough….

[https://twitter.com/rmac18/status/1595959362484604928?s=61&t=UUTVJ2\_RQzWvmEjULSrD8Q](https://twitter.com/rmac18/status/1595959362484604928?s=61&t=UUTVJ2_RQzWvmEjULSrD8Q)

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1534 "2022-11-25T02:28:37Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> More evidence he’s panicking.

Insofar as Elon ever had plan, unbanning unrepentant trolls was always a part of it. This is the least surprising ‘development’ of this entire [_Fiasco_](https://bullypulpitgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/fiasco_2020_sell_sheet.pdf). Imagine spending billions of your own fortune (and many more of investors who are relying on your purported speculative genius) to un-permaban Donald Trump, Marjorie Taylor Greene, the MyPillow Guy, and Jordan Petersen.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1535 "2022-11-25T02:44:24Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> More evidence he’s panicking.

…I don’t think its panic. He’s been friendly with the alt-right for a while now. Its the only people he is engaging with on Twitter at the moment. He’s turning Twitter into exactly what he wants it to be.

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**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1536 "2022-11-25T02:47:19Z")

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It’s all part of the plan to downsize Twitter to be capable of surviving with just ads from the My Pillow guy and his ilk.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1537 "2022-11-25T03:10:51Z")

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“Why aren’t advertisers paying me any more? I tried threatening them, I tried lying to them, I tried being a white supremacist, and NOTHING is working!”

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1538 "2022-11-25T03:12:19Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Someone’s code wasn’t good enough….

Musk doesn’t seem to get a couple of basic facts about more modern thinking about writing code

1. All the code I personally write, is not “my” code, it is my team’s code, because it goes through a review process. I don’t “own the code”, my team does.

2. Much of what I write is refactoring or altering someone else’s code, again, I make no claim of ownership because my team takes ownership when it passes code review.

His understanding of coding is archaic.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1539 "2022-11-25T03:19:06Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> Musk doesn’t seem to get a couple of basic facts about more modern thinking about writing code

Musk will undoubtedly soon pick this up and respond appropriately: fire everyone on the team!

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1540 "2022-11-25T03:55:31Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> Musk will undoubtedly soon pick this up and respond appropriately: fire everyone on the team!

You’re only thinking three dimensionally; he’s going to fire everyone retroactively and demand their salaries back, and then fire future employees and demand they pay him.

Stranger

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