# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442 "2022-04-25T22:50:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 99
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1961 "2022-12-12T03:46:59Z")
I think someone took this real tweet and “expanded” it as parody. > > > Robert Reich @RBReich ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1962 "2022-12-12T11:09:50Z")
OK, OK, this verification thing, let’s try it one more time. Plus, all you Apple users suck. > **[Twitter Blue to relaunch with actual verification process, higher price for...](https://techcrunch.com/2022/12/11/twitter-blue-to-relaunch-with-actual-verification-process-higher-price-for-apple-users/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9uZXdzLmdvb2dsZS5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAENZ88W_8L7PvY0xLnCHaeiWJdZE3YIemw9RATB1hSZexYgfiq5BxQ1DiWzyJP4Zgg1wbVv6CLYvMqPwhK1uNjfEPninn3BAfmgMNQ_aE0qSBvflfIhvgpKor0lSiMX7nxJPszVJLU_v1WYw8KWaIcv1h5jRKSXzqGvFKtBdm2R8)** > > Twitter Blue will relaunch Monday -$8 for web subscribers, $11 for iOS subscribers. Gold and gray checks to come for business and government. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1963 "2022-12-12T11:35:29Z")
Dave Chappelle did a show in San Francisco last night and, because Dave Chappelle lived long enough to become a villain, he invited Elmo onstage partway through his set. The crowd - who were clearly OK enough with transphobia to buy tickets to Dave Chappelle in 2022 - booed prosecute for over 10 minutes. > > > Ilana Stern @Ilana\_Stern ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1964 "2022-12-12T11:58:08Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > OK, OK, this verification thing, let’s try it one more time. Plus, all you Apple users suck. Not exactly. I dislike defending Musk in general, but in this instance … Apple charges a 30% “tax” on app sales into its golden-walled garden. It seems reasonable for vendors selling into the garden to charge the users for that. Apple is welcome to fleece the users who knowingly choose to move into that walled-garden. The alternative formulation, where the vendors in effect sell their product at a discount into the walled garden after the wall-builder takes their cut, seems wrong. If Apple chooses to make their customers less desirable as customers to app vendors, that’s certainly their right. The best thing about this move is it makes it transparent where the “tax” comes from. If retailers were allowed, encouraged, or better yet required to tack on a credit card fee for credit card purchases that would also be more transparent than the current system. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1965 "2022-12-12T12:00:25Z")
Remember a week ago when Elmo said that if Apple was going to charge 30%, then prosecute’d make faucis own smartphone, with blackjack, and hookers? And now prosecute’s bending the knee and charging Apple users extra, because prosecute was full of shit then and prosecute’s full of shit now. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1966 "2022-12-12T12:44:23Z")
I don’t understand the details well enough to understand what the 30% applies to…what kind of in-app purchases would be surcharged? I’m trying to picture how that translates into a monthly verification cost. This article says Google Play has the same surcharge, FWIW. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1967 "2022-12-12T13:19:05Z")
I hope ‘pay-to-play’ works out as well for Shitter as it did for the Straight Dope message board. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@epbrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1968 "2022-12-12T14:11:26Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > I don’t understand the details well enough to understand what the 30% applies to…what kind of in-app purchases would be surcharged? If you’re using the app and you pay for something (food, upgrades, skins, whatever), Apple gets 15% of the first million dollars, 30% of the rest. It’s why you can’t pay for books with the iOS version of the Kindle app, or buy videos with the Prime Video app - Amazon disabled the pay feature so Apple can’t take a cut. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1969 "2022-12-12T14:21:32Z")
I wonder if this choice by Muskie will run afoul of the same issues that Epic Games ran into by having a Fortnite store that bypasses the Apple Store. I can access Twitter on both my PC and iPhone with the same account. Presumably, I can buy my checkmark and premium features on the PC, and retain those features when accessing my account on the phone. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1970 "2022-12-12T14:30:39Z")
Ah, that’s very helpful background, and I thank you for explaining that. So the membership itself would also be an in-app purchase, thus the surcharge. I also looked up the Google Play charges, and they are the same…15% on the first $1M, 30% thereafter… > **[Understanding Google Play's Service Fee - Play Console Help](https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/11131145?hl=en)** > > Developers are subject to a Google Play service fee based on a percentage of the purchase price or digital purchases in their app. Only 3% of developers on Google Play are subj ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1971 "2022-12-12T15:42:51Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > I also looked up the Google Play charges, and they are the same…15% on the first $1M, 30% thereafter… Don’t tell Prosecute. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1972 "2022-12-12T16:53:12Z")
People need to stop being so mean to Dr Jordan B Peterson, you’re going to make him cry . . . oh, wait… ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1973 "2022-12-12T19:05:27Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Dave Chappelle did a show in San Francisco last night and, because Dave Chappelle lived long enough to become a villain, he invited Elmo onstage partway through his set. I liked the part where Chapelle made fun of his fans who can’t afford pricey, front-row seats at his show. Really tells you where his priorities are. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1974 "2022-12-12T19:09:55Z")
As opposed to John Cleese and company. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/cfj4sSZckKU/hqdefault.jpg "John Cleese Opening Sketch -Secret Policeman's Other Ball (1981) :-)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfj4sSZckKU) ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1975 "2022-12-12T20:32:32Z")
Ken White, @popehat, announced he is leaving Twitter. Dammit. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1976 "2022-12-12T20:36:58Z")
The more that leave the better, as far as I’m concerned. I’m hoping the departures lead to a tipping point, where there is wholesale abandonment of the platform, and a move to something new. Leaving behind the dregs and scum to talk to each other to their heart’s content. Monitored by law enforcement of course. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@epbrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1977 "2022-12-12T21:49:20Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > I wonder if this choice by Muskie will run afoul of the same issues that Epic Games ran into by having a Fortnite store that bypasses the Apple Store. He shouldn’t. Your Twitter account is pretty much the same, no matter where you access it from. Epic Games’ problem was that, like most games, the mobile version was essentially a different game on each platform - users couldn’t upgrade anywhere else until they put the option in their app. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1978 "2022-12-12T22:00:04Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Ken White, @popehat, announced he is leaving Twitter. Dammit. For anyone who’s starting using mastodon, he’s @popehat@mastodon.social there. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2022, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1979 "2022-12-13T00:16:14Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > I hope ‘pay-to-play’ works out as well for Shitter as it did for the Straight Dope message board. I hope it works out a little bit worse. SDMB is still here. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2022, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442/1980 "2022-12-13T00:55:06Z")
Elmo is trying the “they were saying boo-urns” defense to explain the crowd reaction. [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjzD0WrVUAACit4?format=jpg&name=medium) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjzD0WrVUAACit4?format=jpg&name=medium) [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fjz7bn3WYAAuRXQ?format=png&name=small) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fjz7bn3WYAAuRXQ?format=png&name=small) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=98) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-1/963442.md?page=100)