# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** elon-musk\ **Created:** [August 13, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634 "2024-08-13T00:48:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 100
**Author:** ![FluffyBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecb155/32.png) [@FluffyBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FluffyBob)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2002 "2025-03-19T20:24:34Z")
I don’t know about that 1000000 figure for civil servants, but the “downplaying Hitlers role” bit is givng him way too much credit. With his constant retweets of white supremist conspiracy theories and positive comments on them, changing his thumbnail to Pepe the frog in armor and name to a white supremist dogwhistle title (as a totally hilarious dudebro joke), his famous salute, and declaring Hitler did nothing wrong, I don’t think we have to mince words. He is a filthy Neo Nazi. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2025, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2003 "2025-03-19T22:12:49Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Anyone know if paranoia is a side effect of ketamine use? > [Elon Musk Alleges Conspiracy Is Trying to Take Him Down](https://www.mediaite.com/tv/they-basically-wanna-kill-me-musk-alleges-cloak-and-dagger-conspiracy-is-trying-to-take-him-down/) Don’t know about the ketamine side-effects. But Elon does appear to be pretty nervous. Reports on Bluesky—which I’m not finding hard evidence for—are that the site won’t let you post the words “Luigi Mangione.” It’s censored. _Slate_ says that Reddit is censoring discussion of Mangione, too, but that would be more Sam Altman being nervous than Elon being nervous. Wikipedia has: > [@](#): > > On March 5, Reddit announced that they will be issuing warnings to users who upvote “violent content”, and “may consider” taking other actions against the users. The Verge reported two days later that Reddit’s automatic moderation tool has been flagging the word “Luigi” as “potentially violent”, including in comments or context unrelated to Luigi Mangione, the suspect in the killing of the UnitedHealthcare CEO. The moderator of r/popculture, a subreddit with over 125,000 members, stated that Reddit’s AutoModerator system flagged a comment about Luigi’s Mansion because it included the word “Luigi”, and instructed them to “check for violence”; other comments that mentioned “Luigi”, even in non-violent context, were also flagged… > **[Reddit](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reddit)** > > Reddit (/ˈrɛdɪt/ ⓘ) is an American proprietary social news aggregation, content rating, and forum social network. Registered users (commonly referred to as "Redditors") submit content to the site such as links, text posts, images, and videos, which are then voted up or down ("upvoted" or "downvoted") by other members. Posts are organized by subject into user-created boards called "subreddits". Submissions with more upvotes appear towards the top of their subreddit and, if they receive enough u... I’ll keep looking for confirmation on the X story (but wouldn’t be surprised at all, given Elon’s recent paranoid postings, if he’s trying to memory-hole Mangione’s deed). ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2004 "2025-03-20T00:05:52Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Anyone know if paranoia is a side effect of ketamine use? Heh, the only person I’ve known that was a heavy ketamine user said he talked to aliens when he was totally blitzed on it. Apparently he wasn’t alone. ETA: a link to a Reddit thread asking " Anyone else seen/spoken to aliens in khole" > **[Reddit - The heart of the internet](https://www.reddit.com/r/ketamine/comments/bgijha/anyone_else_seenspoken_to_aliens_in_khole/?rdt=44065)** In the end, I stopped hanging out with him when started telling me I needed to educate myself about some aliens hanging out just past Saturn that were going to do something cataclysmic when I was pretty sure he wasn’t on ketamine (no, I’m not exaggerating). So, paranoid fantasies seem par for the course in my very limited experience. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2005 "2025-03-20T11:17:54Z")
Seen online: > [@](#): > > If Tesla dealerships would just rake their lots, there probably wouldn’t be as many fires. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2006 "2025-03-20T12:15:25Z")
Finance nerds will find this extremely interesting. There seem to be some monkeyshines happening in Tesla’s books. > **[$1.4bn is a lot to fall through the cracks, even for Tesla](https://www.ft.com/content/62df8d8d-31f2-445e-bfa2-c171ac43db6e?accessToken=zwAGMMMoctg4kc9i342NMfJEXtO_osFxrEPbbg.MEUCIEsq1BiYqSb-u3EY2s4RxQJrPIO5udn2EjE1oLC7IfU4AiEApCmH1k2KOorDgwHz0mQRnmR96N8OJ_j6ElFh74RwQ-8&sharetype=gift&token=dce332de-934f-4cae-90e2-b33d54f527df)** > > When money spent on assets doesn’t result in assets (FT has a partial paywall. If you’ve clicked a link recently, this may be blocked. If you haven’t visited in a while, or ever, this should be accessible.) ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2007 "2025-03-20T12:37:06Z")
I’m sure the SEC will launch an investigation. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2008 "2025-03-20T12:54:45Z")
Here’s a non-paywalled version that reproduces some of the more damning charts and statistics from the FT article. > **[Tesla (TSLA) accounting raises red flags as report shows $1.4 billion missing](https://electrek.co/2025/03/19/tesla-tsla-accounting-raises-red-flags-as-report-shows-1-4-billion-missing/)** > > Tesla’s (TSLA) accounting practices are raising red flags as a new report from the Financial Times shows that $1.4 billion... ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2009 "2025-03-20T13:46:04Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Here’s a non-paywalled version that reproduces some of the more damning charts and statistics from the FT article. From that article: > However, for those hoping for Tesla to get in hot water for cooking the books, I would remain careful. Not only could there be explanations for this, but with Trump and Musk kneecapping the SEC, repercussions are unlikely. Musk’s jeopardy is more from the market fleeing his stock in fear of shady accounting than from the SEC (which would be true even if it weren’t Trump’s SEC, although to a lesser extent). ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2010 "2025-03-20T13:52:25Z")
[Elon Musk, on the missing $1.4bn](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLfAf8oHrMo): [![](https://compote.slate.com/images/0ecd79ca-713e-46f7-a997-ca3097f04a42.jpeg?crop=1560%2C1040%2Cx0%2Cy0&width=1280) ](https://compote.slate.com/images/0ecd79ca-713e-46f7-a997-ca3097f04a42.jpeg?crop=1560%2C1040%2Cx0%2Cy0&width=1280) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2011 "2025-03-20T16:03:59Z")
Musk is learning that the FO part of FAFO isn’t particularly pleasant. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2012 "2025-03-20T17:22:18Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Anyone know if paranoia is a side effect of ketamine use? For an honest answer, no. Ketamine has very few side effects. It is a very safe drug used widely in the third world because of its room temperature stability and ease of application. It is an “anaesthetic” in that you feel the pain but you don’t care. I have used it recreationaly, though. Disasociative psychedelics are not for everyone. Don’t try this at home, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2013 "2025-03-20T17:43:53Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > It is a very safe drug used widely in the third world because of its room temperature stability and ease of application. As safe as any drug that can cause addiction and kill you with an overdose at least. Relatively speaking, though, you do have a point in that it’s less dangerous than many other drugs people may abuse. Overdose deaths are extremely miniscule in the US at least. > **[Notes from the Field: Ketamine Detection and Involvement ..](https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7344a4.htm)** > > This report describes the detection of ketamine in overdose .. > During July 2019–June 2023, a total of 228,668 drug overdose deaths were identified in 45 jurisdictions. Ketamine was detected in 912 (0.4%) overdose deaths, listed as involved in 440 (0.2%) deaths, and was the only substance involved in 24 (0.01%) deaths ([Table](https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7344a4.htm#T1_down)). A majority of deaths with ketamine detected involved illegally manufactured fentanyls (IMFs) (58.7%), followed by methamphetamine (28.8%) and cocaine (27.2%). Overall, 82.4% of deaths involved either IMFs, methamphetamine, or cocaine. Approximately one third (34.8%) of decedents in whom ketamine was detected were aged 25–34 years, and approximately three quarters were males (71.3%) and non-Hispanic White persons (73.7%). But as it points out, it’s not unusual for ketamine to be laced with other things that are more dangerous, so if you are obtaining it outside of a proper medical situation, that’s pretty risky. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2014 "2025-03-20T21:29:05Z")
I think it’s interesting that the two most talked-about drugs in today’s world are Ketamine, which won’t kill you, and Fentanyl, which almost certainly will. ---
**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2015 "2025-03-20T21:45:01Z")
A previous winner of the Uk version of drag race died from ketamine. It was just reported this week. > **[Drag artist The Vivienne died of cardiac arrest caused by ketamine, family says](https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/mar/17/drag-artist-the-vivienne-died-of-cardiac-arrest-caused-by-ketamine-family-says)** > > James Lee Williams’s sister says it is important to raise awareness of the dangers of the increasingly prevalent drug ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2016 "2025-03-20T21:47:23Z")
IIRC, wasn’t ketamine what did in Matthew Perry? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2017 "2025-03-20T22:14:22Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Finance nerds will find this extremely interesting. There seem to be some monkeyshines happening in Tesla’s books. So Elon’s businesses are riddled with waste, fraud, and abuse? No wonder he’s so good\* at finding them! . . . \*for uses of “good” that include “not providing any credible evidence of finding waste, fraud, or abuse at all.” ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2025, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2018 "2025-03-20T22:31:11Z")
Yes. > **[Perry death an accident caused by ketamine – coroner](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67734397)** > > The Friends star was found unresponsive in the pool of his Los Angeles home in October. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2019 "2025-03-21T00:04:33Z")
Ketamine absolutely kills people, per the CDC report I posted. Just not as much as other recreational drugs. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2020 "2025-03-21T03:14:34Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Fentanyl, which almost certainly will Fentanyl gets used in clinical/hospital settings with OD fatalities being relatively uncommon. It is dangerous stuff, but it is most certainly not iocaine powder. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2021 "2025-03-21T03:20:45Z")
God? It’s me Crow. If you could get Trump to say we’re invading Canada to stop them from helping the Mexicans bring iocaine, a drug very much like cocaine but worse, into our country I be very appreciative. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634.md?page=99) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634.md?page=101)