# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** elon-musk\ **Created:** [August 13, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634 "2024-08-13T00:48:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 101
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2022 "2025-03-21T03:23:12Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > As safe as any drug that can cause addiction and kill you with an overdose at least. It’s not physically addictive, like, say, alcohol or heroin. It’s not even very psychologically addictive, like, say, marijuana. An overdose of water can kill you. Everything has risks. > **[Water intoxication: What happens when you drink too much water?](https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318619)** > > Drinking too much water can lead to water intoxication, which can be fatal. However, this is rare. Learn about the symptoms, causes, and risk factors here. More info than you probably want to know can be found here: > **[Ketamine Toxicity](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK541087/)** > > Ketamine is a structural analog of the dissociative anesthetic and recreational drug phencyclidine (PCP).\[1\] Similar to phencyclidine, ketamine causes analgesia and amnesia without the cardiovascular and respiratory depression associated with common... ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2023 "2025-03-21T03:42:38Z")
But… this is not the thread for arguing drugs, this is the thread for complaining about Elon, a shame on all thinking South Africans. EtA… who the fuck calls their child “Elon”? I see from the internet it is Hebrew in origin, but not at all a common name. In any case Yahweh must be pissed off. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2024 "2025-03-21T04:06:09Z")
This way we don’t have to pity his name-mates. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2025 "2025-03-21T04:10:25Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > EtA… who the fuck calls their child “Elon”? I see from the internet it is Hebrew in origin, but not at all a common name. In any case Yahweh must be pissed off. Elon is the title of the prime minister of Mars in a novel written by Wernher von Braun. Not kidding. > [@](#): > > Chapter 24 of the novel, “How Mars is Governed”, states: > > The Martian government was directed by ten men, the leader of whom was elected by universal suffrage for five years and entitled “Elon.” Two houses of Parliament enacted the laws to be administered by the Elon and his cabinet. > **[Project Mars: A Technical Tale](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Mars:_A_Technical_Tale)** > > Project Mars: A Technical Tale is the English translation of an unpublished German-language science fiction novel written by German-American rocket physicist Wernher von Braun (1912–1977) in 1949. Von Braun’s original title for the work was Marsprojekt. Henry J. White (1892–1962) translated it into English. In 2006, almost 30 years after von Braun’s death, Apogee Books (Canada) published White’s translation as Project Mars: A Technical Tale. As of 2025, the original German text remains unpublis... > **[“The Elon”: How a Nazi Rocket Scientist Invented the World’s Richest Man](https://www.mind-war.com/p/the-elon-how-a-nazi-rocket-scientist)** > > Errol Musk named his son after a character in a sci-fi book by the inventor of the V-2 Rocket, Wernher von Braun ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2026 "2025-03-21T04:54:50Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > EtA… who the fuck calls their child “Elon”? A dyslexic person who really likes Christmas. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2027 "2025-03-21T04:57:07Z")
Buying ads is not efficient. Buying voters is the way to go these days. [Musk’s PAC offers $100 to Wisconsin voters in pitch against “activist judges”](https://www.axios.com/2025/03/21/elon-musk-pac-wisconsin-judges) ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2028 "2025-03-21T11:27:52Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > A dyslexic person who really likes Christmas. hmmm, I only wish Elon (I mean Noel) would have a mysterious disappearance. ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2029 "2025-03-21T15:30:46Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > A dyslexic person who really likes Christmas. Xmas? ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2030 "2025-03-21T15:41:09Z")
Nevermind. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2031 "2025-03-21T18:20:14Z")
> [@Tatterdemalion](#): > > Xmas? ⛳ 👏 ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2032 "2025-03-21T18:36:05Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Ketamine absolutely kills people, per the CDC report I posted. > > Just not as much as other recreational drugs. As a percentage of total Americans or as a percentage of users? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2033 "2025-03-21T19:02:54Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > As a percentage of total Americans or as a percentage of users? As a percentage of death from drugs in the United States. I’ll link to my post with the CDC info. > [@Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 2)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2013): > > As safe as any drug that can cause addiction and kill you with an overdose at least. Relatively speaking, though, you do have a point in that it’s less dangerous than many other drugs people may abuse. Overdose deaths are extremely miniscule in the US at least. During July 2019–June 2023, a total of 228,668 drug overdose deaths were identified in 45 jurisdictions. Ketamine was detected in 912 (0.4%) overdose deaths, listed as involved in 440 (0.2%) deaths, and was the only substance invol… > [@scudsucker](#): > > It’s not physically addictive, like, say, alcohol or heroin. It’s not even very psychologically addictive, like, say, marijuana. That’s not true. Ketamine has been cited to lead to strong psychological dependence and mild physical dependence. Comparing it to “water” in terms of danger is absolute ignorance. When administered by medical professionals it can be very safe. When abused, it can be very dangerous. There are centers that handle ketamine addiction alongside other drugs that are abused. > **['Friends' star Matthew Perry died after taking ketamine. Is it safe for...](https://www.uchealth.org/today/ketamine-safety-is-it-addictive-does-it-help-with-depression/)** > > Actor Matthew Perry’s death raised questions about the medical use of ketamine. Understand more about ketamine and when doctors use it. > **[Are Ketamine Infusions Addictive? - American Society of Ketamine Physicians,...](https://www.askp.org/are-ketamine-infusions-addictive/)** > > Written by:  Samuel Ko, MD, Medical Director of Reset Ketamine in Palm Springs, CA Let’s address the elephant in the room because we get asked this question frequently. Despite the growing scientific data \[…\] > **[Ketamine Dependence and Recovery | Green Hill Recovery](https://greenhillrecovery.com/ketamine-dependence-and-recovery/)** > > Clinical trials of ketamine for addiction and depression show promising results, but the drug also poses a risk of dependency and a need for caution. > **[Signs and symptoms of ketamine addiction](https://www.priorygroup.com/addiction-treatment/ketamine-addiction-treatment/ketamine-addiction-symptoms)** > > Find out about the signs and symptoms of ketamine addiction and learn about the causes and risk factors for ketamine misuse from Priory. It’s true that you don’t have symptoms of withdrawal like you do with many other drugs, but it can destroy your life if you develop a serious addiction. People who are prone to addiction to other substances are at more risk than others. There are also genetic factors at work. It’s true that it’s not on the same footing as many drugs that people abuse, but it’s absolutely not safe when not properly administered. To get back to Elon, the fact that he is known to be a habitual user should absolutely be a concern (among many) as he is being given unprecedented individual power in the government without any real justification aside from “Trump wants to”. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2034 "2025-03-21T19:34:32Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > To get back to Elon, the fact that he is known to be a habitual user should absolutely be a concern Alternatively, instead of a concern, I will cross my fingers that it leads to excellent news. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2035 "2025-03-21T19:40:20Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Alternatively, instead of a concern, I will cross my fingers that it leads to excellent news. LOL, fair enough. 😆 ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2036 "2025-03-21T19:43:17Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > That’s not true. Ketamine has been cited to lead to strong psychological dependence and mild physical dependence I dispute this, though I recognise your cite. I live in the drug-use subculture, ketamine is widely available as it is a commonly used “stable at room temperature” anaesthetic, stability without refridgeration being important in the third world. No one I know who uses ketamine has developed a dependency. I’ve not. Neither have my social group. I mean there is a thing, “ketamine therapy”, where, sure, the doses are carefully administered, But actual psychological or physical dependency seems far fetched ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2037 "2025-03-21T19:44:17Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > But actual physical dependency seems far fetched I’ll take the expertise of medical professionals over the opinion of a recreational user. This is the Straight Dope, after all. (But I do recognize and respect your courtesy on the subject, even here in the Pit.) ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2038 "2025-03-21T20:20:47Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I’ll take the expertise of medical professionals over the opinion of a recreational user. I mean, sure. I’m not a medical professional. You have no reason to trust me. Even as insane Elon is, I doubt his “special K” intake makes much difference. He’s known to “microdose” ketamine, whereas my useage is “macrodose”. I do it for fun, Elon apparently does it for reasons I do not understand but are probably up there with high level execs using cocaine. This is a disasociative chemical. Dissasociatives include such fun chemicals aa PCP, which despite the bad press, is not too different from ketamine. Same class. That means your body and your mind are not really connected anymore. You can walk, sure, but it is challenging. It is better to lie down in case you damage yourself. Your mind is no longer in charge of your body. This is the worst thing when you are a CEO of a major company (or companies) ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2039 "2025-03-21T20:49:55Z")
> **[Grimes Slaps ‘I Bought This Before Elon Went Crazy’ Sticker On Child](https://theonion.com/grimes-slaps-i-bought-this-before-elon-went-crazy-sticker-on-child/)** > > Est. reading time: 1 minute ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2040 "2025-03-21T21:09:07Z")
He _says_ he microdoses. Watching his behavior in some situations, I question that. For example, CPAC where he wore sunglasses the entire time and revealed extremely bloodshot eyes when they slipped down, or the interview last year when he told advertisers to go fuck themselves and demonstrated classic amphetamine behavior. Those instances don’t look like ketamine to me, but I don’t believe for a second that his only drug use is supervised ketamine microdosing. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2025, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2041 "2025-03-21T21:12:42Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > That means your body and your mind are not really connected anymore. You can walk, sure, but it is challenging. It is better to lie down in case you damage yourself. Your mind is no longer in charge of your body. Yeah, it’s scary shit. If you’re doing it in the privacy of your own home, more power to you. Do it if it makes you happy, and hopefully you’re being as safe as you can be. But this guy is a whole other story. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634.md?page=100) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634.md?page=102)