# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** elon-musk\ **Created:** [August 13, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634 "2024-08-13T00:48:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 116
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2322 "2025-05-16T17:52:57Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > So if Cybertruck is a failure, does that necessarily condemn any effort to develop an all-electric pickup truck? Nobody hates the Cybertruck because it’s all electric. They hate it because it was designed by a 10 year old in 1978, because it’s “bulletproof”, because it’s “apocalypse proof”, because it’s designer is a ridiculous man-child who want’s to destroy our government and repopulate the planet with more people like him. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2323 "2025-05-16T18:03:33Z")
Thank you. Standing in line right now to get my birthday donuts! ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2324 "2025-05-16T20:34:22Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > if Cybertruck is a failure, does that necessarily condemn any effort to develop an all-electric pickup truck? From Tesla, maybe. There are already other, non-shitty all-electric pickup trucks on the market. The Ford F-150 Lightning, for example. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2325 "2025-05-16T21:38:18Z")
And lest we forget, the scale of its failure was entirely avoidable. Elmo built his plans on the basis of producing 250,000 of these abominations a year because he claimed in 2023 that over 1 million people had made reservations for them. > **[‘Over 1 Million’ People Wanted a Cybertruck. Where Are They?](https://www.wired.com/story/where-did-the-one-million-people-who-wanted-a-cybertruck-go/)** > > “Demand is off the charts!” Elon Musk crowed at the end of 2023, citing more than a million reservations for Tesla's polarizing polygonic pickup—so why has it still sold less than 50,000? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2025, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2326 "2025-05-16T23:01:55Z")
Just like his popularity numbers, he probably counted all the Twitter bots and trolls in that figure ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2327 "2025-05-17T00:13:24Z")
Maybe he counted on California-style mandates for non-petroleum vehicles by a certain date, to give him a captive market. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2328 "2025-05-17T05:41:42Z")
California style mandates when he was putting his chips on Texas and Trump? C’mon, he really would be a dumbass if that was the case. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2329 "2025-05-17T05:59:12Z")
Shhh, we’re not supposed to remember when Trump wanted to ban electric vehicles. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2330 "2025-05-17T12:58:53Z")
For a day, asking Grok about pretty much any topic would result in it talking about the “white genocide” in south africa. As is common with LLMs, you could simply ask it why it was bringing up this topic, and it would respond that it had been programmed to do so, and that it didn’t really believe that there was evidence of significant racially-motivated violence. > **[Musk’s firm says Grok’s lies about South Africa ‘white genocide’ were...](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/musk-xai-grok-south-africa-white-genocide-b2752760.html)** > > Musk’s AI chatbot Grok turned unrelated questions on several different issues back to an insistence that white genocide is ‘real.’ It was responding to a code manipulation said xAI \ ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2331 "2025-05-17T13:00:31Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Shhh, we’re not supposed to remember when Trump wanted to ban electric vehicles. Fake news. He loves TESLURR ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2332 "2025-05-17T15:55:33Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > He loves TESLURR “The car is all computer!” ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2025, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2333 "2025-05-19T22:50:07Z")
#ETTD, including Elmo. Long story, short: Trump hasn’t Twuthed about Elmo since the beginning of April. Elmo has shut up about Trump. The GOP blames Elmo for losing the WI race. > [@](#): > > “He’s finished, done, gone. He polls terribly. People hate him,” an anonymous GOP operative told [_Politico_](https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/19/elon-musk-disappears-trump-world-00355313). “He’d go to Wisconsin thinking he can buy people’s votes, wear the cheese hat, act like a 9-year-old. … It doesn’t work. It’s offensive to people.” > **[Trump wipes Elon Musk’s name from Truth Social as GOP insiders say he’s...](https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-elon-musk-truth-social-mentions-b2753786.html)** > > President Donald Trump was posting about Musk on Truth Social an average of four times per week in February and March ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2025, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2334 "2025-05-20T01:04:05Z")
Musk himself may be out, but the team of wrecking balls he infiltrated into the government are still hard at work. > **[As Musk steps back, DOGE moves forward with more cuts, sweeping agency changes...](https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/17/politics/musk-doge-future)** > > Elon Musk’s prominent role in President Donald Trump’s White House appears to be fading, but the tech billionaire’s brainchild — the budget-slashing Department of Government Efficiency — is poised to continue its work after his departure. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2025, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2335 "2025-05-25T17:55:03Z")
This little bit of schadenfreude in the form of a short by Legal Eagle just popped up on my feed: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/xGgeUK9Twiw/maxresdefault.jpg "Trump Screwed Tesla Owners In The Stupidest Way 🤦‍♂️.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGgeUK9Twiw) I remember reading that little exemption clause in my auto insurance way back in the dark ages when I got insurance on my first car and being amused by it. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2025, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2336 "2025-05-29T01:51:00Z")
And Elon is out of DOGE. > **[Elon Musk is leaving the Trump administration after leading effort to slash...](https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-donald-trump-big-beautiful-bill-aa2bc70b0ebdb219b5dd3e9f8fae03af)** > > Elon Musk is leaving his government role as a top adviser to President Donald Trump after spearheading efforts to reduce and overhaul the federal bureaucracy. I guess he’s done stealing all of everyone’s personal info. > He dramatically reduced his target for cutting spending — from $2 trillion to $1 trillion to $150 billion — and increasingly expressed frustration about resistance to his goals. Considering the fact that he had no legal authority to do **ANYTHING** , I’d say he got far too little resistance. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2337 "2025-05-30T17:37:55Z")
NYT issues report saying that last year Musk, “was also using drugs far more intensely than previously known, according to people familiar with his activities.” Yes, I know plenty of people here knew he was on multiple pharmaceuticals: the point is that GOP sources are slipping in the shiv. You get lots of downstream reporting from Times stories. For example, from the Daily Beast: > **[All the Drugs Musk Took Every Day Listed in Bombshell Leak](https://www.thedailybeast.com/all-the-drugs-musk-took-every-day-listed-in-bombshell-leak/)** > > Musk is alleged to have carried around a box of drugs while he was on the presidential campaign trail with Donald Trump. Ketamine - Adderall - Ecstasy - Shrooms ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2338 "2025-05-30T17:40:12Z")
No cocaine? Even in his drug use, he’s at best a 5 ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2339 "2025-05-30T19:53:30Z")
Cocaine is for peasants. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2025, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2340 "2025-05-30T19:55:20Z")
Maybe more of a 6.5, if we’re treating (3,3) as a ten. > **[File:Rational scale to assess the harm of drugs (mean physical harm and mean dependence).svg](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rational_scale_to_assess_the_harm_of_drugs_(mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependence).svg)** ---
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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > NYT issues report saying that last year Musk, “was also using drugs far more intensely than previously known, according to people familiar with his activities.” In other news, DUH!!! All you had to do was watch any of his CPAC appearance last year. I got contact high just watching him for a couple of minutes. [![](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLTX5XdD3F8bM0R3DRjlXeXnRaXQIYleXSYg&s) ](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLTX5XdD3F8bM0R3DRjlXeXnRaXQIYleXSYg&s) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634.md?page=115) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634.md?page=117)