# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** elon-musk\
**Created:** [August 13, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634 "2024-08-13T00:48:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2442 "2025-06-06T20:37:41Z")

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> [@leahcim](#):
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> On one hand the spelling is weird for something pronounced “My kull”.

And “Michael” isn’t?

If I wasn’t familiar with the name, based on the spelling I’d probably want to pronounce it “My-Chale”, or “My-Shale”.

(Unless you were referencing the normal spelling of “Michael”, then I think that I was just reinforcing your point.)

Oh, and by the way, my RL first name is spelled wrong all the time, and as long as it’s not going to cause a problem (such as an official document or record) I gave up correcting people a long time ago. (It’s not even a weird spelling, just the second-most-common spelling of it.)

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**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2443 "2025-06-06T20:42:02Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> If I wasn’t familiar with the name, based on the spelling I’d probably want to pronounce it “My-Chale”, or “My-Shale”.

“Mr. Jackson” if you’re nasty.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2444 "2025-06-06T20:48:21Z")

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I agree with you laehcim.

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**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2445 "2025-06-06T21:17:13Z")

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Michael is like Rafael. Rafael is easy becausee we pronounce it RAFF [long A sound] ell.

So pronounce it mentally as MIKE-[long-a]-ell and it’ll be easy to keep straight.

And no, I’m not a Michael IRL.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2446 "2025-06-06T21:24:46Z")

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All the archangels are the same, ending in -el for “God.”

Raphael  
Michael  
Gabrael

…wait, that’s not right.

(And Irish Mícheál is more like mee-hall, FWIW).

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> (And Irish Mícheál is more like mee-hall, FWIW).

French “Michel” is “mee-shell”.

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**Post date:** [June 6, 2025, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2448 "2025-06-06T21:55:09Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> French “Michel” is “mee-shell”.

In German, “Michael” is pronounced Mee-cha-el.

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2025, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2449 "2025-06-07T02:53:55Z")

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I have a female friend named Michal. A family member named Michelle (F), another named Michele (F), a neighbor named Michel (M), a coworker named Michele (M), multiple people in my life named Michael (only about half go by “Mike”) and one oddball named _Mitchael_ (“Mitchell”, M).

Names are weird.

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I know a woman named Michael.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2451 "2025-06-08T01:14:44Z")

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[Michael Learned](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Learned) was a well-known actress as well

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2452 "2025-06-08T01:26:27Z")

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And [Michael Steele](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Steele_(musician)), bassist for the Runaways and the Bangles.

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**Post date:** [June 8, 2025, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2453 "2025-06-08T05:52:17Z")

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Like it’s supposed to be pronounced.

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My good friend in grade school was of Norske stock: his name was “Mikal”, so it took me a long time to get used to the common spelling.

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Like it’s supposed to be pronounced

I have a friend who is Israeli, Michel, which I think is the way it is supposed to be pronounced in Hebrew, albeit with a gutteral “ch” which does not exist in English.

I don’t know the phoneme, but I think it is pronounced as χ

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And of course the Russian Mikhail which sorta’ preserves the guttural ch

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Oddly, when you put «Михаил» into gtranslate, Russian → Hebrew, it comes back with “מייקל”, which appears to have a standard k guttural stop, not a χ or ɣ guttural fricative (as «Михаил» has).

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Are you sure? In Hebrew the name is pronounced “Mee-cha-EL” (or “MEE-cha-el” if you’re being informal). Three distinct vowels.

Or if your friend a girl? Because there’s also an unrelated girl’s name, Michal (Mee-CHAHL”).

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I hate to barge in and change the subject, but…

> **[Trump calls Musk ‘big-time drug addict’ according to report](https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-elon-musk-drug-addict-feud-b2766051.html)**
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> The president was concerned about Musk’s drug use, White House officials say, leading to the explosive end of their relationship

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Haven’t there also been reports/rumors about the Trump administration staff eating drugs like candy? People in glasshouses and all that…

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Yeah, three syllables. My ability to write phonetics is limited. He’s a guy.

Mee-cgha-ell (where “cgha” is the unfamiliar phoneme)

I also have a friend named Ma’or, but at least that is easy to pronounce.

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