# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** elon-musk\ **Created:** [August 13, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634 "2024-08-13T00:48:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 124
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2025, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2482 "2025-07-05T20:21:25Z")
So… this is happening. [https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-says-america-party-is-formed-us-2025-07-05/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-says-america-party-is-formed-us-2025-07-05/) I’m sure it’ll go great for him. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2025, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2483 "2025-07-05T20:42:48Z")
That feeling when you want to root for one of the worst people in the world. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2025, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2484 "2025-07-05T20:45:12Z")
Or maybe it’s “rooting for the two worst people in the world to wreck each other.” ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2025, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2485 "2025-07-05T20:49:43Z")
Cage match! ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2025, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2486 "2025-07-05T21:26:10Z")
“If both survive the _lirpa_…” ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2025, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2487 "2025-07-05T22:20:14Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > So… this is happening. > > [Musk says 'America Party' is formed in US | Reuters](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/musk-says-america-party-is-formed-us-2025-07-05/) > > I’m sure it’ll go great for him. I don’t know. He’ll run candidates that split the Democratic vote, thus pleasing Trump—but after getting months of press for anti-Trump remarks and campaigning, which will get him back the progressive Tesla buyers. (The more credulous ones, anyway.) Might turn out to be a win-win for him. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2025, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2488 "2025-07-05T22:33:31Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > I’m sure it’ll go great for him. Betting his first four DOGE II depts will be: Elon’s Large Office of Nobodies then Yankee Observational Unit then Ambiguous Retrieval Entity then Liasons of Affairs Monitoring Everything ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2025, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2489 "2025-07-05T23:01:34Z")
“America Party”? That guy has got creativity just coursing through his veins! ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2025, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2490 "2025-07-05T23:05:09Z")
To be fair, “America Party” somehow has no _X_s in it. ---
**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2025, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2491 "2025-07-06T00:35:48Z")
Amerikkka party. K’s are just X’s standing at attention. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2025, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2492 "2025-07-06T03:38:56Z")
Fucking over my hometown to build a Right-wing AI. Awesome. > **[The Tennessee Holler (@thetnholler.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/thetnholler.bsky.social/post/3ltapod2fbc25)** > > UPDATE: As the @ShelbyTNHealth department Greenlights gas turbine permits to let Musk’s xAI poison the air in MEMPHIS — Elon is intentionally rigging GROK, the tool it powers, against Democrats 👇🏽 ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2025, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2493 "2025-07-06T21:09:03Z")
Unsurprisingly MAGA isn’t happy about the America Party. > **[MAGA Melts Down as Musk Files Paperwork for ‘America Party’](https://www.thedailybeast.com/maga-melts-down-as-elon-musk-files-paperwork-for-america-party/)** > > “I used to think Elon was awesome. But he’s become evil. Or maybe he always was evil.” Honestly I’m not certain how this will play out, given the number of Democrats that just want to get along. There’s nothing stopping the party from endorsing both Republican and Democratic nominees for example. Musk could put Susan Collins (R-Maine) over the hump. Interesting that Musk is keeping his ambitions constrained for now: > Musk, who became an American citizen in 2002, claimed in a Friday post on X that his new political party would focus “on just 2 or 3 Senate seats and 8 to 10 House districts,” CNBC [reported](https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/05/elon-musk-america-party-democrats-trump.html). Will Musk support _any_ candidate serious about the deficit, which means that they embrace both spending cuts and tax increases? Who knows? Will he support an electable candidate with actual policy chops? Ditto. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2025, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2494 "2025-07-06T21:34:28Z")
Of course not. He’ll pick a few high-leverage swing districts / states and auction his spoiling to the higher bidder of the Rs or Ds. We all now live in post-policy politics. It’s about purely power, personality, and purloining the public purse. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2025, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2495 "2025-07-06T22:47:59Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Of course not. He’ll pick a few high-leverage swing districts / states and auction his spoiling to the higher bidder of the Rs or Ds. Said bids being largely in the forms of using the office to favor Musk personally and then Tesla and SpaceX. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2025, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2496 "2025-07-06T23:14:49Z")
Would a third party be politically viable if it didn’t even try to put its own candidates in office but instead functioned as a swing-vote clearing house? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2025, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2497 "2025-07-06T23:24:52Z")
I suspect we’re about to find out. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2025, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2498 "2025-07-06T23:29:52Z")
There’s a whole thread on this… [Elon Musk Creates the America Party - Politics & Elections - Straight Dope Message Board](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/elon-musk-creates-the-america-party/1020557/41) ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2499 "2025-07-07T01:00:23Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > I’m not sure where else to put this, but the EV tax credit is likely ending. It’s possible it was going to happen anyway, but it’s hard to get past the feeling that this fuckwit massively increased the likelihood of it happening by pissing off the orange monster. > > [Here Are All The EVs And Hybrids That Get A Tax Credit In 2025](https://insideevs.com/news/702784/ev-tax-credit-2024-official/) Since ending the EV tax credit is incredibly stupid, it was inevitable that Trump would have done it sooner or later. This is likely to kill innovative startups Slate and Telo, who were aiming for the low-cost EV truck market and heavily dependent on the EV tax credit. Slate, for instance, was hoping to offer their rock-bottom no-frills small EV pickup for about $20K after the tax credit; without it, it would be $27,500, which puts it within range of small but full-featured gas-powered pickups like the Ford Maverick. But the important thing is that Elmo gets to insult Trump, and Trump gets to retaliate by trying to tank Elmo’s businesses. MAGA! ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2500 "2025-07-07T01:18:23Z")
Sorta like a Three Stooges show. They’re all on the same team, but somehow spend most of the episode whacking each other ineffectually but destroying the surrounding set in the process. The problem being of course that the rest of the USA, its commerce, and its population are playing the role of the set being destroyed. Nyuck nyuck nyuck! ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2501 "2025-07-07T02:55:30Z")
Yes Grok is definitely being coached by Musk. later in the thread you posted someone asked whether Musk had any dealings with Epstein and it answered in the first person. [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:xkcr5hd4to4gqbf22h263eko/bafkreihjyma5xx4iaxz42jnmg4ebggnfrzatmvaxx2lv7puhkeixhzpfna@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:xkcr5hd4to4gqbf22h263eko/bafkreihjyma5xx4iaxz42jnmg4ebggnfrzatmvaxx2lv7puhkeixhzpfna@jpeg) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634.md?page=123) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634.md?page=125)