# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** elon-musk\ **Created:** [August 13, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634 "2024-08-13T00:48:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 132
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2025, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2642 "2025-09-07T11:30:38Z")
The rule doesn’t cover going the wrong way on a one way or other street or deciding that the median is a lane or other hijinks that don’t involve a fatality, an injury requiring hospitalization, a pedestrian being struck, or an air bag deployment. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2025, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2643 "2025-09-07T11:48:49Z")
Are those reportable now? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2025, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2644 "2025-09-07T13:59:57Z")
They absolutely should be for self-driving vehicles. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2025, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2645 "2025-09-07T15:01:33Z")
I agree with this. Self-driving vehicle companies should be made to report anything that a non-inebriated human driver wouldn’t do, even if it doesn’t result in an accident. (OK, maybe I’m being optimistic about the capabilities of human drivers here. But local and state DOTs could use that data to make their signage and the like better, which would help both regular and self-driven vehicles in the long run.) ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2025, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2646 "2025-09-07T15:43:05Z")
Unless the human riding in the sorta-self-driving car chooses to push a “report this” button, how would the computer know it screwed up? After all, if it knew it was screwing up, it’d wouldn’t be screwing up. And the mere fact a human switches the car from auto- or semi-auto mode to manual is not proof a mistake is being made. Perhaps the next intended maneuver is one the car simply can’t do, like pull into a drive through. I have a non-Tesla with fairly good driver assist. It gets switched on and off every mile or so in suburban driving. IMO nearly zero of those switch-offs represent errors by the computer. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2025, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2647 "2025-09-07T17:05:16Z")
> [@SunUp](#): > > anything that a non-inebriated human driver wouldn’t do Have you had opportunity to observe what (apparently) non-impaired drivers would not do? It is a very short list. I have made some inappropriate moves, though mostly when I determined that they were comparatively low risk. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2025, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2648 "2025-09-07T21:57:20Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Unless the human riding in the sorta-self-driving car chooses to push a “report this” button, how would the computer know it screwed up? After all, if it knew it was screwing up, it’d wouldn’t be screwing up. Yeah, I wonder about that, too. > [@ParallelLines](#): > > [https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/us-agency-ease-self-driving-vehicle-deployment-hurdles-retain-reporting-rules-2025-04-24/](https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/us-agency-ease-self-driving-vehicle-deployment-hurdles-retain-reporting-rules-2025-04-24/) > > > Consumer Reports noted that under the new rules, vehicles with advanced driver assistance systems like Tesla Autopilot will not need to report crashes using the system unless it involves a fatality, an injured person requiring hospitalization, a pedestrian being struck, or an air bag deployment. Thanks. Though “need to report” does _ **not** _ mean that this information will become public. So I’d guess that Elon _will_ get his “t.” ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2649 "2025-09-11T01:07:30Z")
So, Elon Musk is no longer “big money #1”. Larry Ellison unseated him. > **[Who is Larry Ellison, who just became the world’s richest person? | CNN Business](https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/10/investing/larry-ellison-worlds-richest-person)** > > Larry Ellison is having the best Wednesday out of all of us. Elmo is now, most appropriately, a big steaming pile of #2. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2650 "2025-09-11T01:12:03Z")
Nah, it’s all based on stock valuation. He’s back up again. It’s all meaningless numbers on a screen at this point ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2651 "2025-09-11T01:45:04Z")
Good news Ellison is also a human shaped piece of shit! ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2652 "2025-09-11T04:40:29Z")
Indeed, his face does look like it was shat out by a fat old bulldog or something. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2653 "2025-09-11T13:37:21Z")
Well I can’t stand Larry Ellison either. Let them fight! ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2025, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2654 "2025-09-11T14:42:52Z")
The best thing Larry Ellison ever did was have a movie-loving daughter who sank a lot of her inherited money into a movie studio (Annapurna Pictures) that has produced and distributed a lot of really good movies, though overall at a significant net loss. I thank her, and implicitly him, for their financial contributions. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2655 "2025-09-14T22:19:54Z")
Uh-oh, Grok got caught posting facts—–but Elon to the rescue, promising to re-program Grok such that facts will never again stain X!!! [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:3w75iygkvtcrqvu4x4ux2hzv/bafkreihh3lysvlo6qmrq2i5vyhhqvewsfxydt3olmo6hduguylcr4terpa@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:3w75iygkvtcrqvu4x4ux2hzv/bafkreihh3lysvlo6qmrq2i5vyhhqvewsfxydt3olmo6hduguylcr4terpa@jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2656 "2025-09-14T22:42:02Z")
> > > End Wokeness @EndWokeness ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2657 "2025-09-14T22:45:41Z")
Well, of course every lead should be investigated. But I’m extremely skeptical of this. When certain people desperately WANT something to be true, reports of the “something” should always be treated with suspicion (see ghost-sightings, for example). ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2025, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2658 "2025-09-14T23:57:53Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Well, of course every lead should be investigated. Seriously? Since when did a Twitter account called EndWokeness posting conspiratorial nonsense without a shred of evidence become a lead? When Elmo retweeted saying “terrorist cell”? Cue the Illinois Nazi scene from The Blues Brothers, replacing “Black” with “Trans” so that its “The Jew is using the Trans as muscle” and you’ve got Elmo’s view on the Woke/Jewish/Trans conspiracy in a nutshell. This is the man who proudly stated that the woke mind virus murdered his son, that The Great Replacement is a real thing, and that White Genocide is happening in South Africa. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2025, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2659 "2025-09-15T22:17:32Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > Since when did a Twitter account called EndWokeness posting conspiratorial nonsense without a shred of evidence become a lead? “Lead” just means that you look into it, not that you assume it’s true. And yes, of course Elon is the least-likely person to repost something reliable. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2025, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2660 "2025-09-16T00:55:29Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > “Lead” just means that you look into it, not that you assume it’s true. “I looked into it by seeing that it was being pushed by EndWokeness and concluded that it was a dead end.” ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2025, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2661 "2025-09-16T03:14:04Z")
Pretty much. Or should we investigate the lead that Elmo gave us that Jews are conspiring to replace the whites in Europe with immigrants in The Great Replacement when he retweeted a Neo-Nazi who said that it was happening. With the exact same amount of evidence provided as the EndWokeness tweet, i.e. none. You don’t look into something if there is literally nothing to look into. It’s not a lead. The “investigation” consists entirely of “Elmo retweeted a post by EndWokeness that said, “Multiple trans people in the area posted on September 9th that “something big will be happening to Charlie Kirk tomorrow”””. There is literally nothing to follow up on. That is the entirety of the “lead”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634.md?page=131) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634.md?page=133)