# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** elon-musk\ **Created:** [August 13, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634 "2024-08-13T00:48:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 133
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2025, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2662 "2025-09-16T11:31:50Z")
You know, if I read multiple posts about “something big” happening to Charlie Kirk right before his assassination, I would identify the people who posted those things, to the police, rather than just post online myself about it being trans people. That’s just me though. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2025, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2663 "2025-09-16T12:06:07Z")
But then how would you monetize your online presence? What are you, some kind of socialist? ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2025, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2664 "2025-09-16T16:00:16Z")
It’s a “lead” only in the sense that it was placed deliberately by bad actors to lead legitimate people & organizations away from truth and clarity, and towards lies and confusion. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2025, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2665 "2025-09-16T18:29:16Z")
Maybe worse than that, it will become a fact of the upcoming conspiracy theory(s) about Kirk’s murder. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2666 "2025-09-17T22:17:20Z")
Yes, for many, that will be true. But just because we despise Elon Musk, we shouldn’t ignore that when a political assassination occurs and ‘X was doing this in advance of the assassination’ is claimed, respectable investigative practice would be to at least check on the claim. If officials attempted to do their job by saying “Elon Musk said it therefore it must be false,” then they wouldn’t be professionals. They’d be partisan hacks. It would be reasonable for them to _suspect_ that if Elon said it it must be false. But they shouldn’t make assumptions. I can see this has become an entire Thing because the claim Elon made was stupid and hateful. And it was, of course. But I think a few posting are reacting to the stupid and hateful (which is understandable) and _not_ to the common-sense idea of what ‘a lead’ is considered to be by professionals. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2667 "2025-09-17T22:30:10Z")
In this case X is “Multiple trans people in the area” without any names or posts specified. How would a common sense professional even start to follow a “lead” like that? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2668 "2025-09-17T22:43:23Z")
[From the FBI](https://www.fbi.gov/video-repository/newss-inside-the-fbis-internet-tip-line/view), on tips. > And analysts will vet them, they’ll review them for believability, credibility, check internal databases and external databases to verify the information is a valid tip regarding criminal activity or counterterrorism activity. > > Once that it’s determined that there is additional investigative merit to information that’s submitted, depending on whether it’s a criminal tip or a counterterrorism tip or a counterintelligence tip, it’ll be routed differently. Of **course** a common sense approach is to consider believability and credibility before determining whether something is a valid lead. The post about trans people isn’t uncredible because Musk retweeted it. Its uncredible because it’s fucking stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2669 "2025-09-17T23:46:18Z")
And this is why platforming is important Once enough people share a fucking stupid conspiracy theory, it gains sufficient credibility for investigation through sheer numbers. Which is still fucking stupid. And those who want to at least appear (if only to themselves) even-handed love falling for that fucking stupid shit, thus playing right into the hands of fascist assholes ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2670 "2025-09-17T23:58:50Z")
Unfortunately there isn’t and can’t be an authority so far above the common fray that it can declare who is telling the truth and who is a liar (with sanctions against the latter). That way lies _ **1984** _. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2025, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2671 "2025-09-18T01:29:57Z")
No, fuck that. If the best “lead” law enforcement has is some random tweet from an account called “EndWokeness” claiming “multiple people” posted something and then enhanced by would-be internet celebrities, that’s no actual “lead” that deserves “following up”. It’s, at best, an internet rumor and should be treated as such. By that standard, it merits less followup than investigating the chupacabra preying on local livestock. It’s on par with the Satanic Panic crap that put innocent people in prison. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2025, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2672 "2025-09-18T02:50:16Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > But just because we despise Elon Musk, we shouldn’t ignore that when a political assassination occurs and ‘X was doing this in advance of the assassination’ is claimed, respectable investigative practice would be to at least check on the claim. You really just don’t get it do you? It has fuck-all to do with Elon Musk, or what anyone thinks of him. The entirety of this ‘lead’ is a post by an account called EndWokeness that said, in its entirety, "Multiple trans people in the area posted on September 9th that “something big will be happening to Charlie Kirk tomorrow”. **With no fucking evidence to support this claim whatsoever**. You are literally doing the same thing as asking ‘authorities’ to investigate if Jews really did 9/11 because an account called Aryan1488 said they did on Twitter. With the exact same amount of evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2025, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2673 "2025-09-18T03:37:44Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > You are literally doing the same thing as asking ‘authorities’ to investigate if Jews really did 9/11 because an account called Aryan1488 said they did on Twitter. With the exact same amount of evidence. Yes, but every lead needs to be investigated. 🤪 ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2025, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2674 "2025-09-18T07:03:46Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > How would a common sense professional even start to follow a “lead” like that? Round up all the trans people using the medical records that RFK has collected. ‘The ~~Jews~~ trans murdered our Lord and Savior ~~Jesus Christ~~ Charlie Kirk.’ ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2675 "2025-10-26T08:58:58Z")
> **[Tesla’s “Mad Max” mode is now under federal scrutiny](https://arstechnica.com/cars/2025/10/feds-probe-tesla-about-its-mad-max-mode/)** > > The new mode added in the latest update will speed and weave through traffic. Is it just me or does this seem like an exceptionally poor idea? ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2676 "2025-10-26T11:09:31Z")
Is this The Onion? Is today April 1st? Are all billionaires emotionally-stunted manboys? I don’t know what the hell is going on anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2677 "2025-10-26T15:47:39Z")
“Mad Max mode” sounds like the kind of thing that would happen if the guy in charge is tripping on ketamine and nobody is able to object to him. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2678 "2025-10-26T15:49:45Z")
I think it might be fun to get a bunch of Teslas on a road race course, set them all to Mad Max mode and watch them compete. Sort of a combination of (slow) Grand Prix and demolition derby. Just need to “hotwire” the driver attention monitoring routine so the empty car thinks there’s a person in there carefully paying attention the whole time while FSD does its thing. Since CTs aren’t selling real well, they could be an easy source of vehicles for this new pay-per-view “sport”. I think that’s one of very few ways Tesla will ever monetize their unsold CT backlog. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2679 "2025-10-26T15:54:07Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Sort of a combination of (slow) Grand Prix and demolition derby. …and BattleBots. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2680 "2025-10-26T21:03:54Z")
[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TDONQIX1D6k/hq720.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEhCK4FEIIDSFryq4qpAxMIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJD&rs=AOn4CLBWsPig7XFxxBdl24S9mVm-EN7LDQ) ](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TDONQIX1D6k/hq720.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEhCK4FEIIDSFryq4qpAxMIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJD&rs=AOn4CLBWsPig7XFxxBdl24S9mVm-EN7LDQ) ‘Let me introduce the new Tesla roadster!’ ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2681 "2025-10-26T22:25:01Z")
This is as good a place as any to mention this. I was recently out in the San Francisco Bay Area for a few days. A place with lots of Teslas but little love for musk. I saw many of them with various forms of the bumper sticker “I bought this before Elon went nuts” My fave though was a car with custom lettering across the left part of the trunk face, about where many cars put either the make or model designator. It was a widely spaced string of separate letters in the Tesla branded typeface. They’re about 2" high & 3" apart. It read **F   E L O N**. Which is actually rather pretty in the Tesla typeface. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634.md?page=132) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634.md?page=134)