# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** elon-musk\ **Created:** [August 13, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634 "2024-08-13T00:48:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 134
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2025, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2682 "2025-10-27T01:44:06Z")
My brother bought a Model S in 2015. I got him a _Bought when Elon was the cool space guy_ sticker. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2683 "2025-10-29T01:59:50Z")
This is about all you need to know about Grokipedia > **[Racism](https://grokipedia.com/page/Racism)** > > Racism is a form of prejudice or discrimination predicated on the belief that racial differences determine inherent traits, capacities, or worth, often asserting the superiority of one race over others and justifying antagonism or unequal treatment... > **[White genocide theory](https://grokipedia.com/page/White_genocide_theory)** > > ) White genocide theory, closely aligned with the "Great Replacement" concept, maintains that white populations of European descent in Western nations are undergoing a deliberate demographic erasure orchestrated through mass non-European immigration,... > **[Human Biodiversity Institute](https://grokipedia.com/page/Human_Biodiversity_Institute)** > > The Human Biodiversity Institute (HBI) was founded in 1999 by journalist and commentator Steve Sailer as an online platform and discussion group dedicated to exploring genetic and biological differences among human populations, including variations... > **[Negroid](https://grokipedia.com/page/Negroid#cognitive-and-behavioral-patterns)** > > !\[Samuel George Morton Crania Americana skulls\]\[float-right\] The Negroid designation, a traditional category in physical anthropology, encompasses human populations primarily indigenous to sub-Saharan Africa and characterized by adaptive... > **[Negroid](https://grokipedia.com/page/Negroid#responses-and-defenses-from-race-realists)** > > !\[Samuel George Morton Crania Americana skulls\]\[float-right\] The Negroid designation, a traditional category in physical anthropology, encompasses human populations primarily indigenous to sub-Saharan Africa and characterized by adaptive... > **[Apartheid](https://grokipedia.com/page/Apartheid#social-and-cultural-dimensions)** > > Apartheid, meaning "apartness" in Afrikaans, was a system of legalized racial segregation and discrimination enforced by the South African National Party government from 1948 until its dismantling in the early 1990s. Following the National Party's... ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2684 "2025-10-29T02:20:29Z")
> [@Zoobi](#): > > This is about all you need to know about Grokipedia Is there something that’s to be taken as self-evident here? I do need to know more. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2685 "2025-10-29T02:36:26Z")
I recommend you read them. Especially for you these should be right up your alley. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2686 "2025-10-29T05:11:50Z")
The Apartheid article has a section entitled " Evaluations of Apartheid’s Achievements Versus Failings" Do you _still_ need to know any more? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2687 "2025-10-29T08:57:50Z")
Should’a called it Blitzpedia. ---
**Author:** ![yendis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ed8c4c/32.png) [@yendis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yendis)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2688 "2025-10-29T09:57:23Z")
That Grokipedia entry on Apartheid is a dangerous combination of subtly biased, obviously biased and blatantly cherry picked from better sources. An example: ”Accompanying industrialization was increased black urbanization, from 20% of the black population in cities in 1960 to over 40% by 1980, fostering a nascent black middle class through skilled employment and entrepreneurship.” That may be a factually accurate statement, but it rather obviously ignores the huge demographic shifts that occurred prior to the 1960s when the Group Areas Act forced people from their homes. It also makes multiple claims about the economy that are directly contradicted by the fact that Apartheid was demonstrably a terrible policy economically, as was predicted by many in the pre-apartheid era. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2689 "2025-10-29T15:38:50Z")
From the real Wiki article: > Although details of how it works are not currently known,[[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grokipedia#cite_note-AP-2025-2) visitors to the encyclopedia can suggest edits via a pop-up form for reporting wrong information, but unlike Wikipedia and other [wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki)-based encyclopedias, they cannot directly edit articles. Businessman and xAI founder [Elon Musk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk) positioned Grokipedia as an alternative to Wikipedia that would “purge out the [propaganda](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda)” in the latter. [7] He left out the _and replace it with propaganda I like_, part. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2690 "2025-10-29T15:41:56Z")
> [@Zoobi](#): > > I recommend you read them. Especially for you these should be right up your alley. > [@MrDibble](#): > > The Apartheid article has a section entitled " Evaluations of Apartheid’s Achievements Versus Failings" > Do you _still_ need to know any more? I hadn’t read any of them, I was going by the headers in @Zoobi’s post. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2691 "2025-10-29T16:10:19Z")
It’s customary on the board to make your point in a post without just lazily posting a link and expecting others to go dig it up for you. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2692 "2025-10-29T16:15:31Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > I hadn’t read any of them, Then you’re an idiot.. If someone links to some stuff, and you just go by the link previews and then act all huffy and entitled about it, YTA. > [@Atamasama](#): > > It’s customary on the board to make your point in a post without just lazily posting a link and expecting others to go dig it up for you. When your point is that the content at the links is shit - when the stuff linked to is what your post is about - then no, just linking to them is sufficient. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2693 "2025-10-29T17:04:22Z")
Setting aside the fussing about quoting or commenting (or not) beyond what the preview box shows … IMO… It’s probably not by accident that the initial few sentences of each Grokopedia entry as shown in the preview sound reasonable on their face. All the evil propaganda is buried in the second and subsequent paragraphs. As a way of lowering folks’ defenses as they wade into the raging garbage that’s the rest of the article. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2694 "2025-10-29T18:37:14Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > The Apartheid article has a section entitled " Evaluations of Apartheid’s Achievements Versus Failings" > Do you _still_ need to know any more? I mean, technically, the apartheid government did manage to provoke sufficient resistance so that they were overthrown. I think that is an achievement. A well aimed shot in the foot. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2695 "2025-10-29T19:23:29Z")
Grok is asking 12-year-old boys for nude photos now. [https://www.cbc.ca/news/investigates/tesla-grok-mom-9.6956930](https://www.cbc.ca/news/investigates/tesla-grok-mom-9.6956930) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2696 "2025-10-29T21:07:19Z")
> “[Musk is] a free speech extremist. He wants Grok to be completely open, to have any conversation with anyone. And that’s a principled stance that he’s taken, but it may not be what every consumer is looking for.” A lie proven many times in this thread given the frequent censorship he has engaged in. He believes in free speech that he agrees with, and only that. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2697 "2025-10-30T04:21:03Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > It’s customary on the board to make your point in a post without just lazily posting a link and expecting others to go dig it up for you. Particularly when prefaced with > [@Zoobi](#): > > This is about all you need to know about Grokipedia And rather than just lazily posting links, which one would at least have one need to click on to read the articles, changing the links to previews **which show nothing wrong with the articles**. Ffs, if you’re going to go to the trouble of making them previews, why not just quote the objectionable parts? ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2698 "2025-10-30T11:41:16Z")
> [@Dissonance](#): > > to previews **which show nothing wrong with the articles**. That was my objection. I have no doubt the total content is horrific. But the cites, _as included in the thread_, don’t demonstrate that. Show your work or be called on it. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2699 "2025-10-30T11:45:06Z")
Oh, for fuck’s sake… The previews are automatically added by Discourse. All that they actually posted _was_ links. You really are a bunch of entitled fucks too precious to view anything not spoonfed to you by hand. That’s not discernment, it’s just laziness on your part - which is why you project your laziness on the person who bothered to gather links to the evidence in one place. Jesus fucking Christ, you dinosaurs are so fucking _tedious_ sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2700 "2025-10-30T13:39:41Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > You really are a bunch of entitled fucks too precious to view anything not spoonfed to you by hand. That’s not discernment, it’s just laziness on your part - which is why you project your laziness on the person who bothered to gather links to the evidence in one place. I’m with you 100% on this. So often I see complaints that I (or someone else) didn’t explain the contents of a link extensively enough. That’s what the fucking link is for, if you are interested enough to click it, do, if not then just move the fuck on. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2701 "2025-10-30T13:44:37Z")
Bare links _with no context_, I can see the validity of that complaint - a “look at this cool vid” link _absent other context_, sure, bitch away. But the post under discussion _had_ context. It’s in this thread about what a chud Musk is, and the links are _explicitly_ stated as to his Nazipedia. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634.md?page=133) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634.md?page=135)