# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** elon-musk\ **Created:** [August 13, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634 "2024-08-13T00:48:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 146
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2026, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2922 "2026-01-07T22:22:06Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > And another 100gigawatts for the cooling. [Doc Brown] Great Scott! That is just enough energy for 83 time traveling jumps!! ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2923 "2026-01-08T00:12:53Z")
Which would require lifting an enormous amount of material into LEO just to do the cooling. To say nothing of the cost of solar panels capable of operating in space, which is just _ever so slightly_ more expensive to manufacture than solar panels used on earth. And by slightly, I mean enormously. The linked video does a good breakdown of just how absurdly expensive and impossible it would be to even generate a small fraction of 100 GW in space (which again, is what Elmo says he plans to put into orbit _yearly_) by breaking down a proposal by Starcloud, a company that wrote up a whitepaper proposing a much smaller solar powered AI datacenter in space. For example, they claim the material costs of the solar cells would be $0.03 per watt. Which is the cost of solar panels here on earth, not the cost of the panels powering, for example, the ISS. Those cost approximately €300 per watt to manufacture because they have to deal with tiny things like lack of gravity, drastic temperature changes and radiation without failing. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2924 "2026-01-08T02:35:55Z")
Imagine the cost of repairs and maintenance too. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2925 "2026-01-08T04:04:58Z")
It’s just whatever drug he’s micro dosing on this week doing the talking. The cumulative effects are eroding any sense he’s making. And his robots will do all the maintenance and repairs while standing on each other’s shoulders like a giant space elevator. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2926 "2026-01-08T04:45:03Z")
He will make the chips for those data centers while eating cheeseburgers and smoking cigars. > **[Elon Musk wants to build a dirty 2nm chipmaking fab that you can smoke and...](https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/elon-musk-wants-to-build-a-dirty-fab-that-you-can-smoke-and-eat-cheeseburgers-in-bets-that-tesla-will-turn-the-concept-of-cleanrooms-upside-down)** > > That is, if Tesla has its own fab. ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2927 "2026-01-08T18:23:40Z")
Imagine they need a server rebooted or a hard drive swapped, and you get the ticket. Time to suit up for launch I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2928 "2026-01-08T18:27:56Z")
> [@Airbeck](#): > > Time to suit up for launch I guess. Maybe that’s the next Jerry Bruckheimer film? ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2929 "2026-01-08T18:33:42Z")
I would like that job, they send you to space and _they_ pay _you_. Too bad it will never be economically viable. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2930 "2026-01-08T18:41:29Z")
They would maybe build enough redundancy into the data centers that repairs could wait until there was a lot of catch-up maintenance to be done; then send up a mission that took several days to service all the centers in the same orbital plane. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2026, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2931 "2026-01-08T18:45:38Z")
Redundancy means extra cost and reduced profits. Especially sufficient redundancy to guarantee a minimum level of performance. Might as well just build them on the ground at that point ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2932 "2026-01-09T00:26:48Z")
Grok is now making softcore porn of Renee Good’s corpse. > **[Grok deepfaked Renee Nicole Good's body into a bikini](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/01/grok-x-musk-deepfake-renee-good-ice/)** > > Hours after an ICE agent killed the mother of three, Elon Musk’s chatbot was undressing her. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2933 "2026-01-09T00:31:02Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Grok is now making softcore porn of Renee Good’s corpse. From that article: > Even Ashley St. Clair, the conservative content creator who has a child with Musk, is trying to get Grok to stop creating nonconsensual sexual images of her—including some she said are altering photos of her as a minor. I don’t even know what to say to this. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2934 "2026-01-09T00:43:42Z")
“Welcome to the future”? We’re all, as in all of society, along for the ride as a few tycoons and dictators remake Western Civilization to their satisfaction and our detriment. ---
**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2935 "2026-01-09T02:58:33Z")
[https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/08/tech/elon-musk-xai-digital-undressing](https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/08/tech/elon-musk-xai-digital-undressing) > [@](#): > > Musk has long railed against what he sees as heavy-handed censorship. And he’s promoted Grok’s more explicit versions. In August, he [posted](https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1954791048934244394) that “spicy mode” has helped new technologies in the past, like VHS, succeed. > > According to one source with knowledge of the situation at xAI, Musk has “been unhappy about over-censoring” on Grok “for a long time.” A second source with knowledge of the situation at X said staffers consistently raised concerns internally and to Musk about overall inappropriate content created by Grok. > > At one meeting in recent weeks before the latest controversy erupted, Musk held a meeting with xAI staffers from various teams where he “was really unhappy” over restrictions on Grok’s Imagine image and video generator, the first source with knowledge of the situation at xAI said. > > Around the time of the meeting with Musk, _three xAI staffers who had worked on the company’s already small safety team publicly announced on X that they were leaving the company_ – Vincent Stark, head of product safety; Norman Mu, who led the post-training and reasoning safety team; and Alex Chen, who led personality and model behavior post training. > > […] > > In November, The Information [reported](https://www.theinformation.com/articles/twins-pushing-elon-musks-plans-replace-x-staff-grok)that _X laid off half of the engineering team that worked in part on trust and safety issues_. The Information also reported that staff at X were specifically concerned that Grok’s image generation tool “could lead to the spread of illegal or otherwise harmful images.” This wasn’t some accidental booboo, Musk specifically wanted Grok to behave this way and has removed anyone in the company who opposes him on this. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2936 "2026-01-09T04:35:18Z")
> [@Shalmanese](#): > > Musk has long railed against what he sees as heavy-handed censorship. And he’s promoted Grok’s more explicit versions. In August, he [posted](https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1954791048934244394) that “spicy mode” has helped new technologies in the past, like VHS, succeed. Musk censored X during the last Turkish election, despite a previous decision by the Turkish Constitutional Court that affirmed that Twitter (X) had the freedom of speech and couldn’t be compelled to restrict political information shared on the platform. He’s also cherry-picked and hidden information about his businesses and himself quite heavily. In general, I’d say that he appreciates the anti-censorship movement, but when the rubber hits the road, differentiating the platform is probably the larger motivation than trying to ensure that we all live in a society with no rules or limits. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2937 "2026-01-09T04:58:31Z")
Elon is the kind of narcissistic idiot to whom “Free speech” means “It’s illegal for you to criticize me”. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2938 "2026-01-09T05:10:29Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Grok is now making softcore porn of Renee Good’s corpse. That article has more of the type of utterly idiotic writing that was pointed out by Cervaise: > Grok confirmed that the chatbot had undressed the recently killed woman, writing in one, “I generated an AI image altering a photo of Renee Good, killed in the January 7, 2026, Minneapolis ICE shooting, by placing her in a bikini per a user request. This used sensitive content unintentionally.” This shows that the article writer has a complete and total lack of understanding what an LLM is or how it works. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2939 "2026-01-09T05:37:34Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > This shows that the article writer has a complete and total lack of understanding what an LLM is or how it works. As I said a few days ago; > [@Smapti](#): > > GROK IS NOT ALIVE. Grok is not sapient, or intelligent, or aware of its own existence or mortality or that a world exists outside of itself, nor possessing of agency or free will. It is incapable of experiencing guilt or contrition because it does not know what those things are. It does not understand that making CSAM is wrong because it does not understand the concept of morality. It does not even know that it made CSAM because it does not know what CSAM is or have any permanence of memory. All it can do, and all it will EVER be able to do unless we invent a new form of computing hardware that violates the laws of physics as we currently understand them, is put words in front of other words and generate images that its programming indicates is statistically likely to resemble other images and collections of words that have been fed into its database, in response to a prompt input by a human being. The words it produces are devoid of meaning and are not the product of conscious thought or expressive of any actual lived experience, and reflect nothing aside from what the promoter wants to see or hear, and any relation they may have to objective truth is purely coincidental. > > Any reporter who “quotes” Grok as if it was a living being they sat down with an interviewed is engaged in journalistic malpractice and is actively absolving Elon Musk of his responsibility for being a child pornographer. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2940 "2026-01-09T06:06:38Z")
On top of what you said, one instance of Grok has no idea what has been done by another instance of Grok. That’s like thinking the copy of MS Word on your computer knows what was written in MS Word on my computer. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2026, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/2941 "2026-01-09T06:23:47Z")
Or to extend the analogy from my earlier post, it’s like asking one calculator what it thinks about a different calculator displaying 80085. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634.md?page=145) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634.md?page=147)