# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** elon-musk\
**Created:** [August 13, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634 "2024-08-13T00:48:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2026, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/3342 "2026-05-16T23:14:55Z")

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Maybe they should cast Idris Elba as Zeus and watch Elmo’s head explode.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2026, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/3343 "2026-05-16T23:16:33Z")

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> [@bmoak1](#):
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> Don’t forget that Helen was hatched from an egg her mother laid after Zeus turned himself into a swan and banged her.

The original black swan event.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2026, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/3344 "2026-05-16T23:21:44Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> That’s objectively bullshit because Charlize Theron – beautiful, white, and South African to boot, is also in the movie. If he had wanted to, Nolan could have switched roles and put Theron – a first-rate A-list actress – in the lead role without affecting the AMPAS inclusion standards in the slightest. But he didn’t.

It’s the Odyssey, not the Iliad - Helen of Troy is not a lead role. Nyong’o (one of the most beautiful women in the world, BTW), is going to have a cameo at best. Theron, OTOH, plays Calypso, who _does_ play a major part in the story. So it’s all much ado about nothing.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2026, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/3345 "2026-05-16T23:30:06Z")

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“All much ado about Elon.”

Me, me, me genius, …gets tiring.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2026, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/3346 "2026-05-17T00:16:24Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> It’s the Odyssey, not the Iliad - Helen of Troy is not a lead role. Nyong’o (one of the most beautiful women in the world, BTW), is going to have a cameo at best.

You’re quite right – unless Nolan has massively reworked the story, Helen of Troy is not a lead role here. My mistake. However, Nyong’o also plays Helen’s sister, Clytemnestra, which may be a more prominent role.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2026, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/3347 "2026-05-17T00:16:57Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Theron, OTOH, plays Calypso, who _does_ play a major part in the story. So it’s all much ado about nothing.

Someone should suggest that as a white South African, she’s clearly a DEI hire.

Watch Elon freak out over that suggestion.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2026, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/3348 "2026-05-19T05:51:45Z")

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Elon’$ suit against OpenAI lost in in Federal court. My phone is being difficult but it’s from CBS.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2026, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/3349 "2026-05-19T06:07:40Z")

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The jury basically punted the case; they didn’t rule on the merits, they just decided that Elon waited too long to sue and that the statute of limitations had expired.

[https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/jury-sides-with-openai-sam-altman-in-case-brought-by-elon-musk-933240ff](https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/jury-sides-with-openai-sam-altman-in-case-brought-by-elon-musk-933240ff)

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2026, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/3350 "2026-05-19T11:48:21Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The jury basically punted the case; they didn’t rule on the merits, they just decided that Elon waited too long to sue and that the statute of limitations had expired.

That puzzles me - I didn’t think juries decided that sort of thing, feels like that’s the reason we have judges? There’s no “reasonable doubt/preponderance of evidence” to deliberate on - dates are pretty fixed.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2026, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/3351 "2026-05-19T12:00:01Z")

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In this particular case, the date was when Musk was made aware of the specific circumstances he claimed in his suit against OpenAI, namely their restructuring to balance their nonprofit vs for-profit aspirations.

So, it boils down to when he filed and when he could claim he knew about the for-profit bit of things, and unless there are a ton of texts and emails and other evidence (like in this case!), it’s not always cut and dried when people learn what. But in this case, the jury thought the evidence was clear he knew more than the 3 year statute of limitations allows to sue.

Also worth noting that the jury’s decision was not binding on the judge, but the judge seemed to agree the evidence was rather clear on the 3 years bit.

ETA:

The TL;DR is basically, he had 3 years from the time it was clear they were pursuing a for-profit division to file suit but he waited more than that.

But also, and something the jury didn’t even have to think about because he screwed up, despite his self-aggrandizing claims about serving humanity, he didn’t really care about the for-profit vs non-profit thing. He only cared about controlling things and filed suit because he got pissy over being left out.

But also also, if it somehow wasn’t clear, this wasn’t a good vs evil thing. This was a selfish, amoral, sociopathic bastard vs another selfish, amoral, sociopathic bastard. Neither side in it is remotely good and humanity would be better off if they decided to take their little spat to a desert island instead and never came back.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2026, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/3352 "2026-05-19T19:53:48Z")

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Remember when Elon said the Cybertruck could “serve briefly as a boat”?

> [In Grapevine, Texas](https://www.reddit.com/r/Dallas/comments/1thrcfa/last_night_at_grapevine_lake/), just outside of Dallas, a driver purposely (according to local police) took his Cybertruck into Grapevine Lake at Katie’s Woods Park. As can be expected, the vehicle soon became disabled and took on water, forcing the driver and passengers to abandon it.
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> “The driver and passengers abandoned the vehicle and the Grapevine Fire Department Water Rescue Team assisted in removing it from the lake,” Grapevine Police Media Manager Katharina Gamboa told Chron in a statement.
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> After escaping the Cybertruck and swimming to shore, the driver was soon “arrested on charges of Operation of Vehicle in the Closed Section of the Park/Lake, No Valid Boat Registration and numerous water safety equipment violations.”

> **[Client Challenge](https://www.chron.com/texas/article/tesla-cybertruck-wade-mode-22266836.php)**

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2026, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/3353 "2026-05-20T02:28:56Z")

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Oh, sweet, I’ll be in Grapevine in three days. Maybe someone’s put up a monument to it.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2026, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/3354 "2026-05-20T02:30:19Z")

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This happened a year ago.

> **[An Owner Just Tested Musk’s Claim That The Cybertruck Can Float](https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterlyon/2025/04/27/tesla-cybertruck-is-more-like-anchor-than-boat-that-can-float/)**
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> You should't believe everything Elon Musk says, especially when it pertains to the Cybertruck being able to float.

So that guy had no excuse.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2026, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/3355 "2026-05-20T09:57:29Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Maybe someone’s put up a monument to it.

Knowing the local area and folks, I’d bet the monument is a cairn made of beer cans.

[I hope your visit is for something fun; all Texas-related kidding aside, it’s a pleasant enough 'burb of Dallas.]

  

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> So that guy had no excuse.

I doubt too many Texan CT drivers read _Forbes_.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2026, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/3356 "2026-05-20T12:04:28Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> I doubt too many Texan CT drivers read _Forbes_.

At least in the big cities, there’s no shortage of disposable income, right wing, and stupid (though educated). Often all in the same package. Think low or mid level executive at an oil company.

Grapevine is exactly the sort of suburb those types live in. And enough are old fashioned, I wouldn’t be surprised if there were several who still got the print editions of _Forbes_.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2026, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/3357 "2026-05-20T14:37:59Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> [I hope your visit is for something fun; all Texas-related kidding aside, it’s a pleasant enough 'burb of Dallas.]

Oh I’m a native Texan, long departed to New England, but am familiar with Grapevine…it’s quaint. We have a board game convention nearby and always make at least one trip for Tex-Mex. So, definitely fun!

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2026, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/3358 "2026-05-20T15:10:35Z")

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I’ve visited Grapevine in the last few years, and have a great idea! After visiting the Wreck of the Elon Fitzmuskrat, head over to MeowWolf!

> **[Meow Wolf Grapevine | Interactive Museum Near Dallas | The Real Unreal](https://meowwolf.com/visit/grapevine)**
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> Meow Wolf’s fourth permanent exhibition, The Real Unreal, is located in Grapevine, near the Dallas-Fort Worth area.

[unless it’s a _different_ Grapevine TX]

I was in the area to visit my brother, half-brother, sisters-in-law and the niece and nephew in a nearby part of the Dallas-FtW metroplex, and made time for that before leaving for the next part of a vacation with friends in Austin.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2026, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/3359 "2026-05-20T15:36:05Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> Wreck of the Elon Fitzmuskrat

That’s great!

Original with you, or found online? Not that that greatly matters; kudos to whoever came up with it.

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2026, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/3360 "2026-05-20T19:20:05Z")

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Original to me, but not exactly a hard stretch considering both sources of the joke.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2026, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/3361 "2026-05-23T07:03:01Z")

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Elon has decided that his manned mission to Mars that’s definitely going to happen real soon just you want and see will be commanded by (checks notes) a Chinese billionaire Bitcoin farmer who has been to space only once who dropped out of college and does not have a degree, military experience, or any piloting experience.

> **[SpaceX Taps Crypto Billionaire to Lead First Crewed Mission to Mars](https://gizmodo.com/spacex-taps-crypto-billionaire-to-lead-first-crewed-mission-to-mars-2000762451)**
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> SpaceX shared new details about a crewed Mars flyby in the lead-up to Thursday's Flight 12 launch attempt.

Project Hail Mary this ain’t.

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