# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** elon-musk\
**Created:** [August 13, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634 "2024-08-13T00:48:45Z")\
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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I believe you mean “xXx\_ERM\_69\_420\_1488\_xXx”.

So it was one of Elon’s kids?

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/22 "2024-08-13T06:34:38Z")

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Elmo agreeing with TFG that Biden stepping down in favor of Harris was a coup. Color me shocked.

And remember folks, trust TFG to know what a coup looks like, he has firsthand experience in attempting one.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/23 "2024-08-13T10:24:54Z")

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Ah, you misunderstood. They did not mean “coup” as in “attempted takeover”. They meant “coup” as in “tactical masterstroke in the game of politics”. e.g. “It was quite a coup to hire consultant X away from the opposition and get lots of good insider intel plus deprive them of X’s services. Well played!”

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/24 "2024-08-13T23:43:10Z")

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Imane Khelif has filed a criminal complaint against Twitter and Musk for cyber harassment.

> **[Elon Musk and J.K. Rowling named in harassment complaint filed by Olympic...](https://www.rawstory.com/imane-khelif/)**
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> Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling and tech billionaire Elon Musk — both of whom have a history of espousing anti-transgender views — were reportedly named in a complaint in France over allegations of "aggravated cyber harassment” against an Olympic...

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**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/25 "2024-08-14T01:30:53Z")

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I had to look up DDoS. 💩

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**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/26 "2024-08-14T01:34:47Z")

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You should let Elmo know what you learned…

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/27 "2024-08-14T21:27:31Z")

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Published yesterday in the _New Yorker_, right after Elmo delivers a big “boost” to the Orange Felon’s poll numbers …

[![](https://i.imgur.com/7CijQPj.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/7CijQPj.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/28 "2024-08-14T21:59:58Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> By November Elmo is going to be explaining that actually the Empire were the good guys in Star Wars because they were spreading peace and preserving (white) human civilization against Woke Midichlorians and the multi-ethnic Jedi.

(pet peeve of mine about America)

Is that why, when is see a car or truck with Star Wars decals, they are ALWAYS for the Empire? Stormtroopers, Death Troopers, Vader, TIE fighters? Why are they all supporting the evil side?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/29 "2024-08-14T22:08:01Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Is that why, when is see a car or truck with Star Wars decals, they are ALWAYS for the Empire? Stormtroopers, Death Troopers, Vader, TIE fighters? Why are they all supporting the evil side?

The Empire had all the cool stuff. The Rebels had beat up old junk.

The Empire was better aesthetically, so they are more appealing solely from a visual perspective. People would rather use their imagery for decoration.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/30 "2024-08-14T22:20:09Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> The Empire was better aesthetically, so they are more appealing solely from a visual perspective. People would rather use their imagery for decoration.

And the Nazis had uniforms by Hugo Boss and were quite stylish. They also had skulls on their caps. \*

\*(cue “are we the baddies?”)

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/31 "2024-08-14T22:24:03Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Ah, you misunderstood. They did not mean “coup” as in “attempted takeover”. They meant “coup” as in “tactical masterstroke in the game of politics”. e.g. “It was quite a coup to hire consultant X away from the opposition and get lots of good insider intel plus deprive them of X’s services. Well played!”

It wasn’t a coup d’etat, it was a coup de grace because they put the Biden campaign out of its misery 🤓

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**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/32 "2024-08-14T22:24:19Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> And the Nazis had uniforms by Hugo Boss and were quite stylish.

If Nazis were a fictional group in a popular movie where they were oppressing a group of aliens then you’d probably see Nazi symbols as part of pop culture.

Unfortunately that’s not what they were.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/33 "2024-08-14T22:58:46Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Is that why, when is see a car or truck with Star Wars decals, they are ALWAYS for the Empire? Stormtroopers, Death Troopers, Vader, TIE fighters? Why are they all supporting the evil side?

Where do you live? Because in southern California, Rebel Alliance stickers seem much more popular.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2024, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/34 "2024-08-14T23:27:08Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> Where do you live?

Arizona.

I wish I’d see more rebel. I have the rebel alliance symbol on my camper.

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/35 "2024-08-15T00:36:51Z")

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One is not surprised to hear the land of Apaio, trump, and Lake sides almost entirely with the Empire. Birds of a feather…

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/36 "2024-08-15T00:52:39Z")

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Back in the dark ages when there was only one Star Wars movie, I saw it in the theater when I was a very young child. Cue the intro scene of stormtroopers blasting their way into Leia’s ship. Wanting to know who to root for, I turn to my mother and ask her who the good guys are. Not knowing any better and relying on the old Hollywood trope of cowboy’s hats, she tells me “The guys in white”.

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/37 "2024-08-15T14:11:20Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> One is not surprised to hear the land of Apaio, trump, and Lake sides almost entirely with the Empire. Birds of a feather…

“The tighter you fake electors grab votes, the more slip through your fingers.”

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
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> [@Dissonance](#):
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> Not knowing any better and relying on the old Hollywood trope of cowboy’s hats, she tells me “The guys in white”.

Did you figure it out eventually, or did you sit through the whole movie seething that the Rebels were escaping with the Death Star plans? If the latter, your username would be very appropriate. 😛

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Elsewhere, I saw an image (screenshot) of Elno XScreeding about all the movies in which you rooted for the resistance but when it comes to real life, you side against the resistance. Implying that _he_ supports the good guys.

The thing is that in real life, the Empire might be competent and organized while the Rebels are less lovable paragons of freedom and more violent religious fanatics.

If the Rebels are up in arms because they don’t like the Empire providing safe and affordable reproductive care including abortions, whereas the Jedi Masters say that sex is only for reproduction and marriage is between a man and a woman (or a Jedi and an arbitrary number of women), things get a little more complicated.

Also, what happens when the Rebels win? Are they going to ensure the grain shipments to Coruscant continue on time, or will they cause billions to starve? Running a Galactic Empire is serious work. Palpatine may have been an asshole, but the Empire probably employs trillions of bureaucrats; is the Rebel Alliance up to the task of managing this system?

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> [@Babale](#):
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> Running a Galactic Empire is serious work. Palpatine may have been an asshole, but the Empire probably employs trillions of bureaucrats; is the Rebel Alliance up to the task of managing this system?

Short term, the wheels of bureaucracy would continue to turn. There is a lot of inertia in people’s lives, and most of them are just getting up and going to work each day.

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