# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** elon-musk\
**Created:** [August 13, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634 "2024-08-13T00:48:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/501 "2024-10-07T15:19:54Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Any particular reason this should be one of them, other than a personal interest?

There’s doing research and there’s just a basic understanding of fact vs conjecture.

Here’s Boing Boing’s take on the same thing:

> **[Cybertruck owner reports GEICO will no longer insure them](https://boingboing.net/2024/10/07/cybertruck-owner-reports-geico-will-no-longer-insure-them.html)**
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> A Tesla Cybertruck owner reported that GEICO terminated his auto insurance policy as it did not meet the company's underwriting guidelines.

It’s still not-journalism but at least they’re correctly framing it as “some guy is saying.”

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
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> [@Babale](#):
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> this “report” basically amounts to “People are saying…”

Gathering reports from multiple collaborating witnesses is a basic investigative technique, and attempting to equate the colloquial use of “people are saying” (I say that “people are saying” without citing any of the actual people in question) with the investigative use (establishing that multiple people are, in fact, saying) is a basic obfuscation technique.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
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I think this is if not fake news, at least really sloppy reporting. The evidence appears to just be this one guys letter, and for some reason the journalists who wrote the article didn’t do the obvious thing of asking the company about it. If this was true you would think that GEICO would make a press release.

Other articles from others who did the due diligence of asking GEICO, report that they denied that this was the case.

> **[Tesla's Cybertrucks are still being insured by Geico, despite claims](https://qz.com/tesla-cybertruck-geico-insurance-evs-elon-musk-1851666695)**
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> “GEICO has coverage available nationwide for the Tesla Cybertruck,” the third-largest auto insurance provider said

So it sounds like just the one guy got denied coverage, for Og knows why, possibly including computer error, and that got conflated into GEICO denying all coverage on all cyber trucks.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/504 "2024-10-07T15:47:41Z")

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The website the post came from a clickbait site that culls and aggregates social media posts. Accusing it of journalism, sloppy or not, is a bit extreme.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/505 "2024-10-07T15:51:23Z")

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OK next question is why didn’t I see the 20 or so posts already covering this in preview before I posted.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/506 "2024-10-07T15:53:46Z")

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I’m sure it’s Musk’s fault, somehow.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> You must be thinking of something else.

I can open a new tab to check. Ars has a memorable name but maybe I’m mixing it up with trash that gets into the same feed.

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**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/508 "2024-10-07T16:17:16Z")

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This is pretty typical with insurance, especially dealing with new or poorly defined issues. I have little doubt a more defined policy will be implemented eventually, but most likely the individuals dealing with these cases are finding there is more to it than current procedures allow for and are having to make judgement calls.

I am not an adjuster but I work with residential insurance adjusters to determine coverage. Its a dynamic environment requiring interpretation of specific situations. Procedures need time to develop.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/509 "2024-10-07T16:23:34Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Didn’t notice the dig at Ars Technica. That’s…a take, alright.

After opening some new tabs and checking the suggested articles, I only got recommended an article by them once, and it seemed fine. So I must be mixing up a memorable name with unrelated memorably shitty articles.

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/510 "2024-10-07T17:31:35Z")

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I cannot square this with the experience I had on their website this morning.

Yes, Geico is currently insuring Cybertrucks. And also, they have restricted that particular model, meaning no new policies. Per their own website.

Whether or not there’s exceptions is unclear. But it’s clearly not the same process as insuring, say, a Model Y. And I also fully believe the posters saying they’ve been informed that their policies will not be renewed. That aligns with everything else I’m seeing.

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/511 "2024-10-07T21:03:01Z")

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[This is getting stupid.](https://jalopnik.com/geico-is-cancelling-tesla-cybertruck-policies-as-it-doe-1851666570)

> _ **Updated Monday October 7, 2024 10:45 a.m. EST** _ _- Jalopnik received a statement from Geico confirming that “some customers may have received notices stating that PPA insurance would not be renewed for this vehicle.” The insurer added that it will be reaching out to impacted customers._

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**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/512 "2024-10-07T22:15:41Z")

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Unsurprisingly, there is a parallel discussion over on the Tesla CT thread about the [Geico insuring CTs: will they or won’t they?] controversy. Starting about here:

> [@Tesla Cybertruck](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tesla-cybertruck/843866/1335):
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> Seems that the early adopters’ 6 months insurance policies are starting to expire and they’re just now learning that they’re getting dropped.

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**Post date:** [October 7, 2024, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/513 "2024-10-07T22:17:21Z")

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Well crap, I just told my boss that Geico has said they won’t insure them anymore. He just bought his and loves it. The funny thing is that he hated the Tesla car because of the driverless features. I don’t know if he really loves it, but he’ll never admit it now.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
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“MOMMMMMMMMMMMM! THE OTHER KIDS ARE MAKING FUN OF ME!”

[![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GZUMT_GXMAAb6u3?format=jpg&name=large) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GZUMT_GXMAAb6u3?format=jpg&name=large)

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/515 "2024-10-08T01:29:52Z")

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> <https://x.com/nypost/status/1843415362701754487>

![](https://media.tenor.com/epgbKKkOOhcAAAAe/john-mulaney-and-i-said-promise.png)

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/516 "2024-10-08T01:36:43Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> “MOMMMMMMMMMMMM! THE OTHER KIDS ARE MAKING FUN OF ME!”

She seems to think that the post was made by Liam Neeson, but that’s silly. The real Liam Neeson could afford to pay her son $8 a month for a blue checkmark.

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/517 "2024-10-08T01:39:15Z")

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Ohhh it’s a parody account. That makes more sense

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/518 "2024-10-08T01:43:28Z")

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Not to mention most people don’t need their parents to stick up for them by the time they’re, (checks google), 53 years old.

OTOH, I think this might, at least partially, explain Musk’s insane entitlement issues and fucked up views on women.

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/519 "2024-10-08T02:43:08Z")

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> [@steronz](#):
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> Ohhh it’s a parody account.

The name is Liam Nissan and has 8-bit sunglasses crudely edited onto the photo (along with a smoking joint).

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**Post date:** [October 8, 2024, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/520 "2024-10-08T02:46:04Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> The name is Liam Nissan and has 8-bit sunglasses crudely edited onto the photo (along with a smoking joint)

And magas confuse him for the real thing all the time.

> **[Trump cultists mistaking the Liam Nissan account for Liam Neeson never stops...](https://www.thepoke.com/2024/10/06/trump-cultists-mistaking-the-liam-nissan-account-for-liam-neeson/)**
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> The Liam Nissan Twitter/X account is always a reliable stop-off if you want to see some serious ragging on the more idiotic and problematic aspects of right-wing shenanigans. We’d put good money on more than one Liam Nissan post having sent the Trump...

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