# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** elon-musk\
**Created:** [August 13, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634 "2024-08-13T00:48:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![leahcim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@leahcim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leahcim)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/801 "2024-11-02T17:17:21Z")

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And isn’t Dogedesigner just one of Elmo’s alts?

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/802 "2024-11-02T22:33:55Z")

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> [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> So you’re saying he is an undocumented foreigner, working under a visa acquired under false pretenses?
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> I wonder if Trump has a plan for people like that.

He does. But there are two versions. One for useful (to him) billionaires and one for everyone else.

But you already knew that.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/803 "2024-11-03T00:17:29Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> > [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> > So you’re saying he is an undocumented foreigner, working under a visa acquired under false pretenses?
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> > I wonder if Trump has a plan for people like that.
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> He does. But there are two versions. One for useful (to him) billionaires and one for everyone else.

That brings to mind the poem I wrote a few years ago:

The New Colossus (v. 45)

Not like that massive woman facing East  
With long green robes that reach down to her toes  
(Too bad that she should have so many clothes;  
You’d think she’d show a little thigh, at least)  
**But I digress** ^- protect us from the beast,  
The mule, the raping, thieving, killing horde,  
Who, from his shit-hole country tries to board  
Our great White ship that bears us to our feast.

_Hold back the so-called “refugees” out there.  
Send me your oligarchs, flush with success  
Whose deals with me are always more than fair,  
Who buy my real estate without much stress.  
While Fox and Friends all praise me on the air,  
We’ll show my base that they can do with less._

^Thinking of changing this snippet to: **But now I weave**

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/804 "2024-11-03T00:38:44Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> If I see a Twitter ad twice (or it is especially annoying), I’ll click the “not interested in this ad” button, and I generally never see it again.
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> I have rejected the Trump “message from Mar-A-Largo” ad approximately 100 times, but it won’t die. But I’m certain there are perfectly explainable algorithm explanations for that.

I don’t ever go on Twitter, but I do spend a lot of time on YouTube, and I keep getting, and blocking, MAGA PAC ads. Each time, YT tells me that I won’t see that ad again, but just like a bad penny, Eric Trump’s oh-so-punchable face keeps turning up.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/805 "2024-11-03T00:54:52Z")

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I just block every single ad that I see on Twitter, regardless of content. It’s my way of ensuring that I only use the site in a way that causes Elmo to lose money.

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/806 "2024-11-03T07:07:28Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> Each time, YT tells me that I won’t see that ad again, but just like a bad penny, Eric Trump’s oh-so-punchable face keeps turning up.

Woah, I’ll stop complaining about the survivalist scam commercials I get regularly on YT.

ETA: Survivalist? I don’t even like camping.

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/807 "2024-11-03T09:39:51Z")

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If it turns out that Elmo is an illegal immigrant I will never, ever, stop laughing.

> [@yendis](#):
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> Musk has almost certainly lost his South African citizenship, you have too have take active steps to retain it when getting another. So hed be deported to Canada at best.

What’s the likelihood he winds up in Russia eventually? And if he does he’d have to know to stay on ground floors for the rest of his life, right?

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/808 "2024-11-03T10:06:01Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Hope this is true and Kamala wins. It would be nice to deport his mangy ass once and for all.
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> [Elon Musk’s U.S. citizenship in jeopardy as billionaire's past faces scrutiny: report - Raw Story](https://www.rawstory.com/elon-musk-2669551429/)

The sad reality is that buying residency privileges (and, ultimately, citizenship) in industrialized countries is just how the world works. It’s often even formalized by set amounts of required investment in return for legal residency, but Elmo is obviously far, far beyond that sort of thing. No way Elmo is going anywhere.

On the contrary, the way wealth works in America in particular, Elmo may well end up in a very influential position in the federal government if Trump wins. **He** may well be the one doing the deporting, although it will probably be done by a more experienced Nazi like Stephen Miller heading up the new American Gestapo.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/809 "2024-11-03T17:06:29Z")

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Musk’s citizenship is not in jeopardy. There is not a one in a million chance of this happening. People WANT it to be in jeopardy, but the United States of America is not throwing out a billionaire. This is a ridiculous story.

Hell, it’s wildly unlikely Musk would lose his citizenship if he WASN’T a billionaire; the government doesn’t have time to dredge through details like this from 20 years ago for mild offenses like people who worked during a student visa.

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**Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/810 "2024-11-03T20:35:01Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> Musk’s citizenship is not in jeopardy. There is not a one in a million chance of this happening  
> …  
> Hell, it’s wildly unlikely Musk would lose his citizenship if he WASN’T a billionaire; the government doesn’t have time to dredge through details like this from 20 years ago for mild offenses like people who worked during a student visa

True. And really the whole deal of looking back to any transgression to exact this sort of revenge is what _they_ would do.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/811 "2024-11-04T00:53:39Z")

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Working while on a student visa is small potatoes, it’s not like he was learning to fly an airliner or something.

Far more concerning are his chats with Putin, a foreign contact. Not reporting that is automatic revocation of his security clearance. He was briefed on his responsibilities, he signed and initialed off about understanding what actions were prohibited or had to be reported. This is bog standard stuff, nothing esoteric or confusing. Sen. Menendez was bagged in part for unreported contacts and had his clearance removed awaiting trial.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/812 "2024-11-04T01:58:23Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> Far more concerning are his chats with Putin, a foreign contact. Not reporting that is automatic revocation of his security clearance.

There is, IMHO, a fairly significant chance that the entire reason Musk is suddenly in the bag for Trump is that he has committed espionage crimes, and needs Trump to pardon him.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/813 "2024-11-04T02:00:30Z")

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So it’s pardons all around. Makes sense. Evil sense, but sense nevertheless.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/814 "2024-11-04T23:46:24Z")

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> [@yendis](#):
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> So hed be deported to Canada at best.

Why would we do that to Canada?? ☹

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/815 "2024-11-05T00:12:29Z")

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Between this and Tucker Carlson suddenly rambling about demons attacking him in his sleep and abortion causing hurricanes, I get the impression that the professional grifting class has realized that white nationalism/Putinism is going to dry up in about 28 hours and that “spiritual warfare” is the next grift they’ve decided to bandwagon themselves onto.

> **[Once an Atheist Hero, Elon Musk Now Says He Believes in the Teachings of Christ](https://futurism.com/elon-musk-teachings-christ)**
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> During a Pennsylvania town hall last week, Elon Musk claimed that he now believes in the "teachings of Christ."

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/816 "2024-11-05T00:55:58Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Tucker Carlson suddenly rambling about demons attacking him in his sleep

Demon attack meaning waking up and scratches on his torso. So, clearly demons . . . certainly couldn’t have been from the dogs that were, according to him, also sleeping in the bed.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/817 "2024-11-05T01:26:16Z")

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> [@WolfpackJeep](#):
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> Why would we do that to Canada?? ☹

They’d probably be too polite to refuse.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/818 "2024-11-05T01:31:20Z")

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Also, to get them back for being such uncooperative dicks in 1812.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/819 "2024-11-05T01:34:12Z")

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It’s so weird… The US invaded Canada unsuccessfully, and the French invaded Russia unsuccessfully in 1812. Just not a good year for invasions.

At least we got a kick-ass Overture out of that mess.

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**Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/820 "2024-11-05T01:40:58Z")

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Who is “we”?

Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky was a Russian. Just saying.

(Although it is amazing, the Russian composers have something of a special place in my heart)

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