# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** elon-musk\ **Created:** [August 13, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634 "2024-08-13T00:48:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 42
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/821 "2024-11-05T02:40:35Z")
We get a great Fourth of July music and fireworks show on Boston’s Esplanade. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/822 "2024-11-05T03:43:25Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > (Although it is amazing, the Russian composers have something of a special place in my heart) Me too. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/823 "2024-11-05T04:18:06Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > At least we got a kick-ass Overture out of that mess. And the words to a national anthem. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/824 "2024-11-05T04:38:44Z")
Judge: You may proceed with your lottery Elmo: Actually I picked all the winners ahead of time > **[Elon Musk’s lawyer says $1M giveaway winners not randomly chosen, which could...](https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/elon-musks-lawyer-says-1m-winners-arent-randomly-chosen-raise-legal-is-rcna178711)** > > Musk had said winners of the giveaway were chosen at random. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/825 "2024-11-05T04:59:24Z")
Wow, that’s 20,000 ft, then do a face plant level of stupid. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/826 "2024-11-05T05:14:08Z")
Actually, as I read it, the _defense_ that it wasn’t an illegal lottery was that they CHOSE the winners, it wasn’t a random giveaway. Thus, not a lottery. So they couldn’t be charged as a lottery… meaning they likely committed some flavor of fraud or deceptive practice against everyone who was under the impression they DID have a chance to win. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/827 "2024-11-05T16:09:40Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > So they couldn’t be charged as a lottery… meaning they likely committed some flavor of fraud or deceptive practice against everyone who was under the impression they DID have a chance to win. Exactly what I was going to say. What’s worse than an illegal lottery is making something look like a lottery but have it rigged from the beginning to con people. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/828 "2024-11-05T16:25:40Z")
But would it be _civil_ fraud or _criminal_ fraud? Presumably none of the people involved had to pay to be included, but they did enter into a contractual agreement nonetheless. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/829 "2024-11-05T23:15:08Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > What’s worse than an illegal lottery is making something look like a lottery but have it rigged from the beginning to con people. So if Trump wins (knock on wood) and appoints Elon to all the powerful positions he says he will, then all those presumed Trump-and/or-Elon fans who signed up for Elon’s “lottery” and now know they were defrauded, will say…yay??? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/830 "2024-11-05T23:15:56Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > So if Trump wins (knock on wood) and appoints Elon to all the powerful positions he says he will, then all those presumed Trump-and/or-Elon fans who signed up for Elon’s “lottery” and now know they were defrauded, will say…yay??? They helped make it happen! [![](https://media.istockphoto.com/id/157077901/photo/joy-of-victory.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=zZ4XHHFa5GMp-b65Tr2IHMFAZ8K_50vYMeRw9pjE4FM=) ](https://media.istockphoto.com/id/157077901/photo/joy-of-victory.jpg?s=612x612&w=0&k=20&c=zZ4XHHFa5GMp-b65Tr2IHMFAZ8K_50vYMeRw9pjE4FM=) ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2024, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/831 "2024-11-05T23:18:50Z")
Except for the fact that that kid looks kinda non-Northern European: yes. Probably on target. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/832 "2024-11-09T08:34:00Z")
I’ve finally gotten around to starting a Bluesky account. The few people I follow on Twitter are all over there as well and it has all the functionality of Twitter, but without the ads and bots and chuds, and because it’s an open protocol it can never be co-opted by a billionaire. I don’t think I ever need to go back. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/833 "2024-11-09T15:16:53Z")
I follow about 200 media people on Twitter. I don’t think they’re on Bluesky. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/834 "2024-11-09T15:48:23Z")
Maybe they’ll eventually migrate! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/835 "2024-11-09T18:48:12Z")
I finally turned off Twitter yesterday (deleted all the app interfaces, but haven’t killed the account yet in case someone contacts me there). I’ve been on Bluesky for a while; my three main areas of interest (chess, Bayern soccer, and an obscure third thing) don’t exist there at all, but it is what it is. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/836 "2024-11-10T03:51:39Z")
I’m Janicket the So-So at Bluesky, have also signed up for some other Xitter replacements but tend not to go to them as Bluesky is closest to what was the Xitter experience for me, plus the accounts I followed on Xitter have mostly moved to Bluesky. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/837 "2024-11-10T22:38:07Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > I follow about 200 media people on Twitter. I don’t think they’re on Bluesky. The sooner you tell them you’re leaving for bluesky and then do so, the sooner they move. The migration away from X _must_ be led by the followers, not the providers. Economics demands this. If instead you wait for the content to move, you will wait forever. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/838 "2024-11-10T23:13:52Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Economics demands this. This sentence immediately reminded me of Network: [“You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr Beale!”](https://youtu.be/35DSdw7dHjs) ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/839 "2024-11-10T23:45:07Z")
On the technology/science side, I’ve seen at least a dozen “starter packs” where you can follow a raft of people all at once, or pick and choose amongst them, and be tied into a community. That is absolutely accelerating adoption in the last two weeks. ETA oh wait, I just did some scouting, it goes way beyond that. [A List of Bluesky Starter Packs | blob blob](https://www.bblloobb.com/2024/a-list-of-bluesky-starter-packs/) ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/840 "2024-11-11T04:37:33Z")
Now I hear Elno has said there [will be](https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/trump-ally-elon-musk-warns-of-necessary-economic-collapse-if-trump-elected/ar-AA1t9iGw) some “short-term economic hardship” while “restructuring the economy”. That sounds like a message of pure evil. They plan to privatize every damn thing they can and hand the country over to the billionaires. And “short-term” is not likely. We are well and truly fucked. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634.md?page=41) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634.md?page=43)