# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** elon-musk\ **Created:** [August 13, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634 "2024-08-13T00:48:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 47
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/921 "2024-11-14T00:01:52Z")
> [@duality72](#): > > That’s addressed in the link you obviously didn’t read. Does it address the fact that Bluesky is an open standard protocol that by design is beyond the control of the company that created it? > **[AT Protocol](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT_Protocol)** > > The AT Protocol (Authenticated Transfer Protocol, pronounced "at-protocol" and commonly shortened to ATProto) is a protocol and open standard for decentralized social networking services. It is under development by Bluesky Social PBC, a public benefit corporation originally created as an independent research group within Twitter to investigate the possibility of decentralizing the service. > The AT Protocol aims to address perceived issues with other decentralized protocols, such as user experien... ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/922 "2024-11-14T01:47:30Z")
I’m on Bluesky. It is _so much less shitty_ than X. And initial data is showing that real engagement is actually higher. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/923 "2024-11-14T02:27:30Z")
Sounds like I need to get off my butt and get on there. I keep putting it off since I want to actually have a decent profile. Also, I swear I made one before, but I cannot find it. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/924 "2024-11-14T02:49:01Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I’m on Bluesky. It is _so much less shitty_ than X. And initial data is showing that real engagement is actually higher. A huge wave of new users has hit, and inevitably a lot of them can’t not talk about the site they left (like when people talk about the person they just broke up with), but it’s so freaking wholesome compared to the other place. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/925 "2024-11-14T02:51:43Z")
Part of me wants to get on Bluesky to support it, but I never really used Twitter either, so I’d probably just end up with an idle account over there too. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/926 "2024-11-14T02:59:10Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Part of me wants to get on Bluesky to support it, but I never really used Twitter either [![](https://i.imgflip.com/9aait8.jpg) ](https://i.imgflip.com/9aait8.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/927 "2024-11-14T03:12:57Z")
Yup. 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/928 "2024-11-14T07:25:27Z")
> [@Maserschmidt](#): > > A huge wave of new users has hit, and inevitably a lot of them can’t not talk about the site they left (like when people talk about the person they just broke up with), but it’s so freaking wholesome compared to the other place. They picked up a big chunk of Brazilians when Elon was having his little tiff with Brazil, and a lot of users went out of their way to welcome them. One still sees a fair number of posts in Portuguese but it’s not enough to be an annoyance. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/929 "2024-11-14T15:53:59Z")
Yes, that Brazilian wave was something. This (what I guess I’ll call a) second wave feels like mostly people fleeing Xitter not just because it’s getting worse, but because of Elmo’s support for Trump + the election outcome. That’s spawning a bunch of starter packs so that people find each other quickly, which is great. (I am on a relatively obscure starter pack and woke up this morning to 9 follows, so there’s definite energy to multi-follow) ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/930 "2024-11-14T16:52:29Z")
Concerning Twitter or Xitter, just want to salute the FC St. Pauli, a football (soccer) club from Hamburg with strong political convictions, who has decided to leave the site for good: > The message in English: > You can find our statement on our farewell to X on BlueSky. Feel free to follow us there. We are out of here. The Guardian is leaving too: > **[Guardian will no longer post on Elon Musk’s X from its official accounts](https://www.theguardian.com/media/2024/nov/13/the-guardian-no-longer-post-on-x-twitter-elon-musk)** > > Platform’s coverage of US election crystallised longstanding concerns about its content, says Guardian What took them so long? Whatever: better late than never. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/931 "2024-11-14T16:53:01Z")
According to the chief data reporter of the Financial Times, who makes a lot of interesting graphs, the change in the definition of “block” also caused a huge spike in defections from X. > **[John Burn-Murdoch (@jburnmurdoch.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/jburnmurdoch.bsky.social/post/3latc64e75c2t)** > > Here’s UK and US BlueSky numbers separately, to show what’s driving the trends: > > • Aug 3rd: Musk says ‘civil war is inevitable’ in UK during far right riots > > • Oct 17th: Musk changes the block function on X, prompting a massive exodus > > • Nov 7th:... ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2024, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/932 "2024-11-14T17:06:11Z")
I’ve been on Bluesky for maybe a year, and now I’m seeing a surge in new members from my friend collection on Facebook, a lot of whom weren’t even on Xitter, or had already left it. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2024, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/933 "2024-11-16T00:44:38Z")
Elmo is looking for “super high-IQ” people who pay for Twitter and want to work 80 hours a week for free, which sounds self-comtradictory to me. > **['Corruption is staggering': Musk makes paid-for X accounts only way to apply...](https://www.rawstory.com/corruption-is-staggering-musk-makes-paid-for-x-accounts-only-way-to-apply-for-doge-jobs/)** > > Billionaire Elon Musk is directing candidates interested in working in his new Department of Government Efficiency to submit their résumés through his social media platform X, — apparently granting himself and X access to what he describes as “super... ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2024, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/934 "2024-11-16T00:59:24Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Elmo is looking for “super high-IQ” people who pay for Twitter and want to work 80 hours a week for free, which sounds self-comtradictory to me. There are certainly people who would score high on an IQ test yet have little sense. It’s probably not all that uncommon; I’ve even known a few, including a high school friend and later coworker. I feel a bit bad for such people because they’d totally be taken advantage of. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2024, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/935 "2024-11-16T02:17:35Z")
Seems counterproductive I wouldn’t want to hire, even as a “volunteer” or whatever they’re calling 'em, anybody dumb enough to fall for such an obvious scam. Then again, I’ve never accused Elmo of genius ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2024, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/936 "2024-11-16T03:08:29Z")
I have a suspicion that DOGE is going to end up being Elmo and Ramaswamy wandering around to the heads of real departments and just harassing them on a daily basis. They’ll wind up walking up to a lot of government buildings to suspiciously find the shades drawn and all the lights turned off suddenly. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2024, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/937 "2024-11-16T04:30:48Z")
> [@Jihi](#): > > I have a suspicion that DOGE is going to end up being Elmo and Ramaswamy wandering around to the heads of real departments and just harassing them on a daily basis. I’m envisioning a childish slapfight in front of Foggy Bottom after they can’t agree on who gets to ride shotgun in the Uber. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2024, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/938 "2024-11-17T00:09:20Z")
Elmo in 2022: im a free speech absolutist Elmo today: ALL WHO DARED QUESTION TRUMP WILL SUFFER [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:5bnbgj7gwebt6hhub4pa5c7n/bafkreighvur5qzikiemgagabxbdrq3bg43v5ifvarnkr5jffs7gd7f2usq@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:5bnbgj7gwebt6hhub4pa5c7n/bafkreighvur5qzikiemgagabxbdrq3bg43v5ifvarnkr5jffs7gd7f2usq@jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2024, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/939 "2024-11-17T12:47:48Z")
So says the South African. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2024, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/940 "2024-11-17T12:52:03Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The point is, someone has to actually fire them. Trump can’t just decree someone fired and expect the forces of nature to make it so - it has to go through the chain of command to the individual who specifically has the power to fire that employee. And this right here is exactly why Trump’s pushing to have federal employees’ status redesignated: so he will have the authority to fire them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634.md?page=46) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634.md?page=48)