# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** elon-musk\ **Created:** [August 13, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634 "2024-08-13T00:48:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2024, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/81 "2024-08-17T22:57:23Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > I think **zoomertea** ’s position is that women were taken care of by men, and then feminism came along, at which point they had to take care of themselves. The hilarious part of their post is “_no exhausting jobs_” – because, being a mother to a bunch of children and trying to maintain a household is not at all like work, no, no, no (because, you know, they did not get paid wages for it). And even that only applies to a certain class of women, in a certain place and certain time. The vast majority of women throughout history have engaged in physical labor, mostly in agriculture. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/82 "2024-08-18T07:03:30Z")
Looks like Elmo’s been violating sanctions. > ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/83 "2024-08-18T08:01:08Z")
…Or is he sabotaging them? ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/84 "2024-08-18T11:36:26Z")
Sabotaging the sanctions, or sabotaging the trucks? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/85 "2024-08-18T14:13:52Z")
Sabotaging Kadyrov by sending him a Cybertruck. My money’s on that breaking down or getting stuck long before it gets near a frontline. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/86 "2024-08-18T14:20:52Z")
It’s an IED. It’ll catch fire when they least expect it. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/87 "2024-08-18T15:09:56Z")
Teslas are famous for phoning home. At least Elmo, if not Ukrainian Intelligence, will know where it is. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/88 "2024-08-18T16:37:19Z")
It is over 630 miles from Grozny to Donetsk in the heart of Donbas. I wonder how many superchargers there are along the way. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/89 "2024-08-18T16:55:45Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Sabotaging Kadyrov by sending him a Cybertruck. > > My money’s on that breaking down or getting stuck long before it gets near a frontline. My money’s on it never even trying to get to a front line. Much like the dudes in the video with the Satanic beards and the fashionable ammo-belt vests, it’s all for show. The Cybertruck will spend its time cruising around ~~Moscow~~ Grozny attracting the проститутка (loosely, women of the street who usually come out at night in search of rubes and their rubles). ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/90 "2024-08-18T19:28:15Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > My money’s on it never even trying to get to a front line. It’s Kadyrov’s cybertruck, so it reaching the front lines sort of implies Kadyrov going to the front lines, which is never going to happen, or him allowing his new shiny toy to be used by someone else. While that is also deeply in the realms of fantasy, it has the advantage of not being entirely impossible. > **[Ramzan Kadyrov’s boast about fighting in Ukraine is shot down by his own...](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/03/30/chechen-leaders-claim-have-taken-arms-ukraine-proved-false-social/)** > > The Chechen leader posed with a machine gun at a petrol station, however the pump behind him gave away a Russian brand name ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/91 "2024-08-18T19:30:54Z")
That’s the first time I’ve seen something make a machine gun seem _less_ cool. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2024, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/92 "2024-08-18T19:47:51Z")
The front lines are at minimum 650 miles from Grozny – are there charging stations enough to get it there? And, what if the Russian burn down the power plant at Zaporizhzha? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/93 "2024-08-19T00:09:46Z")
More actually good Community Notes. > > Trump’s claim that tariffs do not harm consumers is false. > > Trump Administration tariffs cost each U.S. household about $1,300 in 2020, per the Congressional Budget Office. Yet their contribution to national revenues is minuscule. I wonder if I need a new thread for these, since they aren’t really much to do with Musk. Just something that I find surprising happening since his takeover. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/94 "2024-08-19T00:23:00Z")
Well, the meta-topic is how objectively terrible Twitter has become under Musk’s misrule, but it may not really be on-point enough just to mock the deplorables unless Musk specifically gets involved (like approving, retweeting, etc.). ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/95 "2024-08-19T07:41:57Z")
What I’m finding interesting is that it seems the deplorables are losing steam, not being able or willing to stop these Community Notes. Usually Notes have to be much more neutral or even pro-right wing to get in. But lately I’ve occasionally seen right wing disinformation directly called out. (And, yes, the d is correct there.) ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/96 "2024-08-19T12:04:46Z")
I am only seeing a proposed community note on that one at the moment, am I missing something? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/97 "2024-08-19T13:57:57Z")
I’m seeing a different note now: > Tariffs are almost always paid by those importing the goods. If they are a retailer they will be passed on to the ultimate consumer. [https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/what-tariff-and-who-pays-it](https://t.co/LXv7fVKpb6) It’s providing the facts without stating outright that Trump is saying something false, and without blaming the Trump administration directly for harming consumers. It’s definitely more neutral. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/98 "2024-08-19T18:50:50Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > It’s providing the facts without stating outright that Trump is saying something false, and without blaming the Trump administration directly for harming consumers. It’s definitely more neutral. Yes. The ‘approved by Elmo’ note is abstract enough that few readers will realize it’s saying that Trump is wrong, and moreover that if Trump gets in and raises tariffs, US consumers will be paying much more for all the goods to which the tariffs are applied. It’s worded in a way, in other words, that Trump will NOT understand is contradicting his views, and that thus will not offend Trump. Thus good relations between the fascists can continue unabated. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/99 "2024-08-19T18:58:00Z")
I just discovered something bad. I approved the original note. But it had my approval recorded on the new note, for some reason. I changed that, as I think it uses more confusing language now, ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2024, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/100 "2024-08-19T19:16:28Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I approved the original note. But it had my approval recorded on the new note, for some reason. If this is routine practice at X—and it may well be—it’s _ **inherently** _ deceptive. Notes that are changed in wording are likely changed in meaning, too (as we see with this one). Cue our shock that Musk is doing something that distorts both a message, and the approval or (lack thereof) it generates. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634.md?page=6)