# Now that Elon Musk has bought Twitter - now the Pit edition (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** elon-musk\ **Created:** [August 13, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634 "2024-08-13T00:48:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 52
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1021 "2024-12-05T04:26:02Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Are you absolutely sure about that? Fairly sure but I’m no legal expert. My understanding is that social media companies have non-exclusive rights to _use_ posted content but that’s not the same as owning it. Otherwise Twitter would own, say, all government information posted by the white house. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1022 "2024-12-05T08:38:05Z")
Leon wants to defund the ACLU. Which receives no federal funding. > **[Art Candee 🍿🥤 (@artcandee.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/artcandee.bsky.social/post/3lcjrm3rtxc2n)** > > Joke's on Elon Musk. > > He can't defund the ACLU. > > They don't get any government funding. > > What an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1023 "2024-12-05T08:50:42Z")
He doesn’t mean it like that. He means close them down and confiscate their assets. If he has any kind of influence in the coming administration, it can start with a revocation of their nonprofit status. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1024 "2024-12-05T09:08:07Z")
As seen in the comments; [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:5kpnznhpr6jhx6fxhzrtbtfd/bafkreihuthdo66ov6vcoxwsdfczvk4tpj5lscie3i2bivrcfxw7dc3rqjq@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:5kpnznhpr6jhx6fxhzrtbtfd/bafkreihuthdo66ov6vcoxwsdfczvk4tpj5lscie3i2bivrcfxw7dc3rqjq@jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1025 "2024-12-05T19:29:17Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Leon wants to defund the ACLU. Which receives no federal funding. I get requests like that at work; being asked to do something unnecessary because it’s already done, or get rid of something we don’t have. I always respond the same way; I put the fingers of each hand on my temples, blink dramatically, and say, “Done.” Some flunky could do that for Elon, then he can turn around and declare to ignorant MAGA folks that ACLU no longer has any federal funding thanks to his efforts, and he’ll be called a hero and a genius. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1026 "2024-12-05T21:03:34Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > He doesn’t mean it like that. He means close them down and confiscate their assets. If he has any kind of influence in the coming administration, it can start with a revocation of their nonprofit status. Yes. I gather the Trumpites plan to close down not only the ACLU but also Planned Parenthood, Democracy Docket, the American Federation of Teachers, NAACP, VoteVets . org, the Brennan Center for Justice, and dozens more non-profits that could conceivably annoy the Dear Leader, regardless of whether or not they receive federal funds. (I believe that NPR is also prominent on the ‘get rid of’ list but it definitely does get a bit of federal funding.) And the method will at least start with (as you say) revoking their nonprofit status. All sorts of other harassment is likely, too. Some might even be designated as terrorist organizations (or as giving aid to such). And as @Atamasama says, Elon and other Trumpites can sell this idea as “defunding” even if there is NO government funding involved, because they know that “defunding” is incredibly popular with people who love to be indignant about supposed misuse of their taxes. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1027 "2024-12-05T22:07:32Z")
According to an article published today in JAMA, ketamine “diversions” (ketamine intercepted before reaching patients) are up 38%. Just felt like I should mention it. (I can link it if someone has a JAMA subscription, but I don’t have a free link) ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2024, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1028 "2024-12-05T23:48:14Z")
I’m sure that ELoon will be effective at getting ketamine off our streets, one gram at a time… ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1029 "2024-12-06T10:42:19Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > > [@Cervaise](#): > > > > He doesn’t mean it like that. He means close them down and confiscate their assets. If he has any kind of influence in the coming administration, it can start with a revocation of their nonprofit status. > > Yes. I gather the Trumpites plan to close down not only the ACLU but also Planned Parenthood, Democracy Docket, the American Federation of Teachers, NAACP, VoteVets . org, the Brennan Center for Justice, and dozens more non-profits that could conceivably annoy the Dear Leader, regardless of whether or not they receive federal funds. (I believe that NPR is also prominent on the ‘get rid of’ list but it definitely does get a bit of federal funding.) And the method will at least start with (as you say) revoking their nonprofit status. All sorts of other harassment is likely, too. Some might even be designated as terrorist organizations (or as giving aid to such). > > And as @Atamasama says, Elon and other Trumpites can sell this idea as “defunding” even if there is NO government funding involved, because they know that “defunding” is incredibly popular with people who love to be indignant about supposed misuse of their taxes. All they really have to do is make one tweak to the tax code: charitable contributions of less than one million dollars are no longer tax deductible. Getting that through Congress strikes me as challenging, but doable. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2024, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1030 "2024-12-06T12:42:31Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > All they really have to do is make one tweak to the tax code: charitable contributions of less than one million dollars are no longer tax deductible. The earlier 2019 trump-era tax code changes that increased the standard deduction accomplished a lot of that already. Note that much (admittedly not all) of the increase was sleight of hand; it merely rolled what had been tax “allowances” for self & spouse into the standard deduction. While killing the allowances for other dependents. This also had the effect that people who used to get the allowances _and_ itemize no longer could. So a tax increase for them. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2024, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1031 "2024-12-07T05:39:46Z")
[![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:dry4szhzrm3uq6c4xex5kfrc/bafkreidesrvanruagfimitrirup6wpsnozkvbcvahget3rxo4rvn2bxwja@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:dry4szhzrm3uq6c4xex5kfrc/bafkreidesrvanruagfimitrirup6wpsnozkvbcvahget3rxo4rvn2bxwja@jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2024, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1032 "2024-12-07T14:38:00Z")
Today on Twitter: literally none of my feeds will load. Bluesky is fine. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2024, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1033 "2024-12-07T18:46:55Z")
Sounds like progress to me. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kron](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kron/32/12444_2.png) [@Kron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kron)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2024, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1034 "2024-12-07T20:50:13Z")
Alright, that made me laugh out loud. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2024, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1035 "2024-12-07T20:54:47Z")
> [@Kron](#): > > Alright, that made me laugh out loud Though the “three friends” do look suspiciously like Tesla Bots. (aka “Optimus”) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2024, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1036 "2024-12-07T21:34:12Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Though the “three friends” do look suspiciously like Tesla Bots. I was thinking they looked like they were paid and/or forced to be there. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2024, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1037 "2024-12-07T21:43:40Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I was thinking they looked like they were paid and/or forced to be there Likely not uncommon where ‘socializing with Elon’ is concerned… ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2024, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1038 "2024-12-08T00:57:00Z")
I finally went and deleted all my posts (but not replies to other posts because there were too damn many) on X and deactivated my account, after being off it for over a month. Felt good. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2024, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1039 "2024-12-09T20:44:27Z")
Here’s a pretty good essay on how completely Twitter has turned into 4chan since all the normals started fleeing. > **[The Current State of Twitter Is So Much Worse Than You Realize](https://www.idiotbox.site/p/the-current-state-of-twitter-is-so)** > > Elon Musk's Attempt to Ruin My Favorite Website May Be His Most Successful Venture Yet > [@](#): > > Where to begin here…the most prominent Nazi on Twitter right now is a five foot tall, catboy-dating gay Mexican, and it only gets stranger from there. The psychosexual walls seem to have come down for this group following Trump’s recent election win, and their internal discourse has gotten fucking crazy as a result. With fewer and fewer left-leaning enemies to contend with on the site, their guns have turned on each other - and those guns are so incredibly weird. Everyone they don’t like (mostly other Nazis) is a secret Jewish homosexual (bad), but somehow being a gay pedophile is “based”. Having a wife is gay (bad version), but not having sex with women is decided not gay. In the past week alone, I have encountered a proud meth-using confederate anime nazi chastising other nazis for being “fake methcels”, several adult men loudly fantasizing about raping young boys, and a litany of other Guy Types that I had no idea were things until now. Even after all these years on the internet, I’m still discovering new kinds of freaks - that’s a small silver lining I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2024, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634/1040 "2024-12-10T14:46:53Z")
> but even that was met with further accusations of Jewishness, gayness, lying, being a Laplander etc. That last one did make me laugh. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634.md?page=51) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-that-elon-musk-has-bought-twitter-now-the-pit-edition-part-2/1005634.md?page=53)